Re: RFD: Essential packages, /, and /usr
>>"ben" == ben <benfoley@rcn.com> writes:
[SNIPPED a whole lot of verbiage basically defending logic
over emotion]
Nice polemics. But each side here has a modicum of logic on
their side; Branden wants a nice, uncontroversial, black and white,
writ in stone (well, may be not) list of commands available to
maintainers of packages that appear early in the boot process, when
parts of the standard system may not be populated. Merely looking at
whether the package is Essential is not enough; since /usr is not
mounted early in the boot process.
The pro is obvious, one can then figure out easier how to
package something like that, and perhaps even allocate fault in some
packages with no argument whatsoever. The Con is that this list has
to be maintained, and may be superfluous, and seems to be designed
to be yet-another-stick-to-beat-recalcitrant-developers-with.
(Superfluous how? just look at the cvontents of /bin and /sbin to
determine whether to command is actually available that early in
boot).
Aj, on the other hand, is logically asking for continuing to
use package priority and content of /bin and /usr as a guide, and
asking for logical, and technically convincing reasons for changing
the setup, and using these to obviate the need for the list. The con
here is that since we are allowing people a modicum of free will,
there shall be controversy.
As to the specifics of cut; I do not find any argument advanced
so far that is convincing; I still think that a minimal / is a
desired goal.
Of course, we can all admit we are wrong, Jeroen was write,
and like the Hurd, do away with the silly /usr thang for once and for
all.
manoj
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