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Re: RFD: Essential packages, /, and /usr



On Saturday 15 June 2002 11:48 pm, Branden Robinson wrote:
[snip]

first off, i've got to thank both of you for making me aware of the value of 
sash, though i'd like to propose that it be made a part of any minimal 
installation definition that may eventually arise as a synthesis of this 
debate.

as far as the debate is going, sorry, anthony, but it seems like branden has 
you on the ropes in terms of the logical quality of the argument. when it 
comes to policy, i am not heartened by any statement that uses the word 
'mommy.' 

on the whole, i think branden has a valid argument. as one who has seriously 
wished to contribute and has investigated the pathways to doing that, there 
is a foggy nature around policy that, at least to my mind, tends to obfuscate 
the process vis-a-vis contributor participation. there is a need for 
consistent--and, perhaps, organic--redefinition of what the minimal debian 
installation should incorporate. as far as i have understood 'debian' to 
mean, it remains a project. that word, project, to my mind, entails a 
consistent revitilisation of the original intent.

the sole reason for my choosing debian has to do with the rule written in the 
social contract that allows anyone to make use of the distribution. that 
promise is equivalent to me as the promise of freedom entailed in the u.s. 
constitution and its bill of rights. in fact, i assume that in the 
composition of the debian social contract that these promises form the intent 
of its basic structure. while the exercise of those promises against the real 
conditions and circumstances in which they arise may occassionally prove 
difficult, none of those conditions or circumstances can ever be held to 
justify abnegation on the grounds of purely personal convienience or 
inconvenience.

further, given that branden's arguments are based on logical propostion and 
rational analysis, whereas anthony's opposition seems to rely solely on ad 
hominem response, i, albeit for one, wish to make a claim that logic should 
prevail over ego, because i am sure that both deb and ian's intent had more 
to do with kantean synthesis than pagan dogmatism.

ben


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