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Bug#91257: re-proposing this

On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 03:08:38AM -0700, Seth Arnold wrote:
> * Sam TH <sam@uchicago.edu> [010507 00:11]:
> > I've never seen AbiWord work over remote X if the fonts weren't
> > installed in *both* locations.  Thus, AbiWord installs on a machine
> > without the fonts are *not useful* *at all*.  
> Sam, please don't take offense at this: the way I see it, if <program>
> cannot function normally under circumstances that most X clients won't
> even notice, I tend to think <program> is broken.

Well, it certainly would be nice to be able to fix this.  But no one
has come up with a good solution yet.  

> Taking Branden's proposal entirely in the abstract, it is simply
> codifying the way X was designed to run. Anything against this *is* a
> bug, because it is not keeping with the network transparency of X.

Unfortunately, X fonts aren't as nicely transparent as X apps.  And
since AbiWord needs to be able to guarantee the availability of
certain fonts, this means those fonts need to be installed in a place
AbiWord can find them.  

If we could expect that a decent set of printable fonts were shipped
with all X installations, we wouldn't have that problem.  But good
luck getting that.  

> However, if the AbiWord developers don't figure they will get around to
> fixing AbiWord any time soon, it sure would be a shame to keep AbiWord
> out of the distribution. Branden, would you have great compunction
> against making your current "must" a "should"?

We'd love to fix AbiWord.  But no one has come up with a good solution
yet.  (Actually, I think people have gotten both the fonts and the app
to be served remotely, but that still requires that the fonts be
installed on the same system.)  
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