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Re: [PROPOSAL] Origin and Bugs support

On Sun, 26 Nov 2000, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

> Previously Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > Yeah this isn't such a good idea. For instance I would tag some of my APT
> > builds to be
> Sigh. Here we go again.

Yes, because you ingored the discussion on -policy and implemented
whatever you wanted and then expected it to just become accepted.

> > Origin: Debian
> > Bugs-To: mailto:apt@packages.debian.org
> > 
> > Which is clearly entirely reasonable and legitimate.
> No, it's not. If you want to make a package special instead of making it
> an integral part of Debian change the Origin tag.

What? It comes from Debian and has an alternate bug location. What exactly
is wrong with that? So what should I use for an origin tag in this case?
Debian129? Some long random string of digits? 

> > Perhaps some network query and cache should be defined - or at least a
> > more dynamic means that does not require packages to be installed.

> Lots of people don't use networks or apt. Any scheme that relies on
> either of those is broken.

Yeah right. 'Lots' of people don't use dpkg and bug reporting tools too.
Better make sure to cater to those minorities too!! You are being way to
selective in which minority is important here.

Having APT maintain the cannonical Origin data as it collects the
information from CDs and remote sites is a really good idea which would
make this scheme alot more worthwhile. It would break for fewer people
than what you are pushing!

> > The major reasons people objected to this before was because putting
> > 'Bugs' information in the control file of every package really really
> > sucks :P
> Not really, that's just your personal opinion.

Shared by others, I didn't even bring it up last time!

> > This was brought up before too -- Debian packages probably should not be
> > tagged at all. Otherwise derived distributions will have to go and
> > unset/reset this which means a full dist recompile! 
> They can just change the /etc/dpkg/origins/debian file.

Screw those packages that are actually from Debian eh? Nice hack.


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