On Sat, Apr 17, 1999 at 04:57:47PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > The real point is that there are two conflicting desires: > > 1. That the sysadmin be able to make stupid changes to the environment, > and that everything still work. > > 2. That the sysadmin be able to make clever changes to the environment, > and have it affect everything in the desired way. Consider bugs #10813 and #32579 [0]. The problem isn't that making stupid changes makes everything break, the problem is that even `clever' changes make everything break. Subtly even. I'm of course happy to leave everything exactly as it is for the moment -- I'm not that averse to the ``It hurts if I do this'' ``Then don't do that.'' philosophy -- but I think that just declaring that changing root's PATH, TZ, LOGNAME, etc are `stupid' isn't necessarily the best solution to this. But working out exactly what should be reset how isn't a trivial thing to do [1], and at least the current behaviour is -reasonably- obvious. Cheers, aj [0] For those people who, like me, have really cool mail readers that let you just click on URL and load up Netscape... http://bugs.debian.org/10813 http://bugs.debian.org/32579 [1] Well, if it is, please feel free to outline it. Ideally provide patches for /etc/init.d/* that fixes all these complaints and introduces no new ones. Ideally. -- Anthony Towns <aj@humbug.org.au> <http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/> I don't speak for anyone save myself. PGP encrypted mail preferred. ``Like the ski resort of girls looking for husbands and husbands looking for girls, the situation is not as symmetrical as it might seem.''
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