Re: additional virtual packages for kde
Andreas Jellinghaus wrote
> > No. We'll definitely not clutter our virtual package list just to support
> > some outside group distributing replacment packages for ours.
> >
> > I suggest that you leave the kde* packages as they are now (have been
> > before that change) so that they don't provide anything and that they
> > suggest each other where appropriate.
> >
> > Then, the KDE people can just call their packages "kde-kde*", "Conflict"
> > with your packages and "Provide" your packages. AFAIK, this would be
> > enough.
>
> this doesn't sound like cooperation.
> but what i want to do is : cooperate.
>
> neither we create the one and only official kde.deb, nor do they.
> we both create a kde.deb version, and both have the same value.
>
> one side naming their package kde-kde* and the other one kde* doesn't
> sound that way. and both parties should use the conflicts (i want to be
> sure, that nothings goes wrong).
>
> and after all : it's only two entries ("kde-kde.deb-package" and
> "debian-kde.deb-package"), and these don't polute namespace.
>
> remember : the reason for a central organisation was :
> a) prevent namespace solution (this isn't the case)
> b) share a name between several maintainers (e.g. mail-transport-agent).
>
> both is not the case for kde*.
>
> > The only case where this might fail is when someone installs some packages
> > of ours and some of KDE's. After all, we are not responsible for the
> > damages if someone tries that.
>
> stop ! it's our users, and a very important goal is, to make it easy for
> our users. and if we exchange this very simple way to seperate the
> packages to something complicate or so, it's not in their intrest.
>
> sorry, but your solution is political, and not good.
> give me a good solution, and i'm happy to use it.
> the current way with two virtual package names works.
I think Andreas is right here. It'll be debian users that will suffer. I
don't feel I know enough of the packages and kde to be sure which is the best
technical solution but I do think we should work something out. And this
regardless of whether we like kde or not. It's in the interest of our users
and of not being called a "broken" distribution.
That's at least how I feel about it.
Luis.
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