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Re: updating the project ideas list



On 2018-02-16, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> I understand there have been a few discussions about the project ideas
> list and the variety of projects, some of which are very much core
> Debian activities and others being about the wider free software eco-system.
>
> I don't want to start the full discussion about that just yet: this
> year, the admin team is handing the baton to new leaders and it will be
> up to them to decide how they want to start that discussion.

Fair enough.

I do have some concerns and experience with this particular issue; at
risk of bringing up a more involved discussion now (I'm not sure of the
value of putting it off)...

For what it's worth, I was present at a talk last year in which several
audience members (other than myself) asked several times, in different
ways, what the talk had to do with Debian, and the answer was that it
wasn't actually used anywhere in the project at all, other than that it
was a Debian Outreachy/GSoC project. This was very awkward for the
former interns, and for several members of the audience, and I daresay
left a rather bad impression.

I don't want to see future interns experience a similar very awkward
moment; I think it could actually work very counter to some of the goals
of Outreachy/GSoC.

I've thought about this since, and while I haven't come up with a good
hard-and-fast rule to define how related a project is to Debian, I don't
think it makes Debian look good to host a project in which Debian is at
no point involved in the project, other than in name, with the logo on
the slides, and maybe some overlapping of community members.

Even just using Debian as the development environment is at least
something connected to Debian.

My assumption and/or preference would be that projects clearly related
to Debian or very directly beneficial to Debian be given first
consideration.  Maybe that's a reasonable expectation, maybe not.

Obviously, it also comes down to who will do the work, and I have made
no proposals this cycle or see myself being significantly involved this
cycle.


> - if anybody believes any of the project ideas would be a better fit
> under another organization, please feel free to comment on that, if it
> is one of my ideas, I'll be happy to look at moving it and I'd rather do
> that sooner rather than later

At a quick glance, several seem like primarily or entirely upstream
projects:

  https://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2018/Projects/BroadcastDataFromGPredictForOtherHamRadioApplications
  https://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2018/Projects/ClickToDialPopupWindowForLinuxDesktop
  https://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2018/Projects/CreateASuccessorToTelifyUsingWebExtensions
  https://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2018/Projects/EasyGnuPG
  https://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2018/Projects/ExtractingDataFromPDFInvoicesAndBills

I haven't done much more than read the descriptions, so maybe there's
some more clear relationship and/or benefit to Debian hosting these
projects that isn't immediately obvious.

I'm not well versed in any of these projects to suggest a better home
for them.


live well,
  vagrant

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