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Re: DM application



On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 01:52:54PM +0200, Jan Wagner wrote:
> On Monday 21 April 2008 13:16, Bas Wijnen wrote:
> > DM isn't meant for everyone who uploads packages, but only for those
> > whose sponsors didn't need to change anything to the proposed
> > packages (at least a few times, IMO).  Also, if severe bugs are
> > found after an upload, that indicates that the sponsor should have
> > asked for a change. ;-)
> 
> Just an annoying question. What's about all those DD who did upload
> packages with such bugs?

Of course DDs aren't perfect either.  My point is that we should try to
get a perfect distribution.  This means letting people upload on their
own when that usually doesn't cause problems.  Using a sponsor should
always give higher quality packages, so one could propose to let DDs
need sponsors as well (so 2 DDs are needed for an upload).  However, the
downside of using sponsors is obviously the hassle, so for people who
have proven that they don't cause too many problems, this doesn't seem
like a good idea.

> Should we drop their upload rights?

That would be an option at some point.  But IMO this point should be
very far away.  If people have shown that they know how things should be
done, and they can do them (by passing the NM process), then keeping
them in constant danger of losing their DD-ship would cause more harm
than it solves IMO (the harm mostly being that Debian would be a lot
less fun for everybody, resulting in less work being done).

But if a DD would repeatedly make mistakes and doesn't improve after
warnings (if things are just bad IRL for example, and the packages don't
get the attention they need, a big improvement would be to not upload
any more, and file an RFH/RFA/O bug for it), then IMO we should indeed
revoke upload rights.  But that should be very rare, and only after
several explicit warnings.

Thanks,
Bas

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