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Re: AM report for Andree Leidenfrost

Dear Marc

Happy New Year & thanks a lot for your response!

On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 03:05 +0100,Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt :
> Andree Leidenfrost <aleidenf@bigpond.net.au> writes:
> > I thought after three months of inactivity it is appropriate that I
> > enquire about the progress of my application.
> Sure, no problem.

Thanks. :-)

> > The status page says that the last action happened on 2005-09-14 and
> > that the following is still outstanding:
> >
> > * DAM to evaluate application
> > * DAM creates new account or rejects application
> Yes, that's correct.


> > Interestingly enough, when looking at the status pages for my fellow
> > applicants at the same stage as I, I notice that almost all of them have
> > the last action date also on 2005-09-14 or shortly after in September.
> Yes. That's because we added a field to store the requested account name
> to the database in september. We added this data for all applicants that
> were already approved by their AM.

I see, so the situation really is even worse.

> > I am aware that we are all volunteers and most of us have a life beyond
> > Debian (certainly true for me ;-) ) but I still feel that three months
> > is a long time, especially as I am in plentiful company of other
> > applicants having waited for three months for DAM approval (or rejection
> > for that matter).
> No, most of them wait a lot longer than 3 months (up to 8 months...)

That's terrible.

> [...]
> >>> Please prevent further damage.
> >> How?
> > One answer might be to speed up DAM approval...
> I fear I have to surprise you, but this is not a new idea. The long DAM
> queue is and was a problem for some time now. To solve this, Joerg
> Jaspert was appointed as new DAM a year ago and he started to work on
> the backlog. The queue was shortened a lot since then (now ~25
> applicants are waiting for DAMnation, down from >60). He will probably
> get it empty in the next 6 weeks, at least I hope so.

I fear I have to surprise you as well. ;-) If this is not a new idea,
why hasn't it been addressed yet? (Shortage of resources I hear you
scream - but read on.) I can see in a later posting of yours that the
DAM job can supposedly only be done by a few extremely trustworthy
people. I am not sure that I understand this. The NM process is a
multi-stage process, multiple parties are involved in making someone a
Debian developer. Because of this, I fail to see why there needs to be a
_special_ level of trust in regards to the DAM.

> Marc

Best regards
Andree Leidenfrost
Sydney - Australia

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