Re: Debian multimedia blend
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:57 AM, rosea.grammostola
<rosea.grammostola@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 05/22/2013 11:35 PM, rosea.grammostola wrote:
>>
>> On 05/22/2013 05:22 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Andreas Tille<andreas@an3as.eu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:12:20PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Felipe (and others, I guess),
>>>>>
>>>>> On Montag, 20. Mai 2013, Felipe Sateler wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are currently in the NEW queue, should reach unstable soon.
>>>>>> The metapackage names are:
>>>>>
>>>>> [sniped]
>>>>>
>>>>> cool! I'm too curious how this will turn out! But a new Debian
>>>>> multimedia
>>>>> blends seems like a great idea! Thanks for your work on this!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, lets see how this evolve. Hopefully users will give us enough
>>> feedback to make them really useful.
>>
>>
>> These packages and subdirs are a good starting point. Linuxaudio is
>> transforming every day, so I think a lot has to change in the different
>> meta-packages.
>>
>> The biggest recent changes imo in linuxaudio is
>>
>> a) release of Ardour3 (with midi support)
>> b) release of Non-Session-Manager (NSM)
>>
>>
>> Point a means that LV2 plugins are more and more important for mixing
>> and using virtual softsynths/instruments.
LV2 plugins are listed in the -audio-plugins package.
>>
>> Point b gives revival to the 'one-task-one-tool-approach' in the audio
>> area. It should be in Debian as soon as possible (new release is coming
>> within a few weeks)
>> http://non.tuxfamily.org/
Lets hope someone packages it. I'm too short on time to do it myself.
>>
>> It might be good to have a 'NON' metapackage with Non-Timeline,
>> Non-Mixer, Non-Sequencer and Non-session-manager.
I don't think so. I think metapackages should relate to tasks, not
suites. That means that each non application should go in the relevant
task rather than create a non metapackage.
>>
>> You want the NSM supported apps in Debian and likely in the
>> metapackages. An NSM metapackage like you've for ladi, might be good
>> too: http://non.tuxfamily.org/wiki/ApplicationsSupportingNsm
I'm not quite sure of the usefulness of the ladi task, to be honest.
>>
>> I think 'audio-plugins' should be 'softsynths or virtual instruments'.
>>
>> Then you've to think about where to put the LV2 and DSSI plugins.
>> Special metapackage or in one of the existing ones (mixing/softsynths)
>> You've LV2 plugins for mixing and LV2 plugins as softsynths/virtual
>> instruments.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. How do you propose to split
the audio-plugins task?
>>
>> I think I would remove the timestretching package, you'll find it in
>> your DAW normally (Ardour/Qtractor).
Yes, it can probably be folded into the audio-plugins task.
> I've edit the tasks, it should be more 'state-of-the-linuxaudio-art' now.
> Use it if you like.
I'll review them and incorporate changes, thanks! Not today, though.
>
> Note, some packages are not in Debian yet! But I think they're important for
> the future of linuxaudio in Debian:
>
> - Ardour3
> - non-mixer http://non.tuxfamily.org/
> - non-timeline
> - non-session-manager
> - non-sequencer
> - carla http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/KXStudio:Applications:Carla
> - calfbox (free alternative for linuxsampler SFZ sampler,
> http://repo.or.cz/w/calfbox.git)
> - lisaloqt (frontend for calfbox)
Well, they are not in debian because they have not been packaged yet
(except for ardour3 I think). Lets hope we can bring in more
developers to package all these interesting applications!
--
Saludos,
Felipe Sateler
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