Re: Please consider maintaining Blends information (Was: Bullet Physics Library)
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> wrote:
>>
>> > The same is perfectly valid for Debian Multimedia: Last change was done
>> > at 2011-07-27 (by fsateler)[4] and those both teams are missing a really
>> > big chance to get new users / developers by failing to drive by the
>> > Debian Wheezy release notes which is regarded by a large user base all
>> > over the world. IMHO it is your choice to tell the world:
>> >
>> > Hey, there are people inside Debian who care about Games / Multimedia
>> > and we have all this cool stuff for you. Debian wants to be one of
>> > the big distributions in this field.
>> >
>> > or you can keep on doing your admitedly fine technical work in your
>> > teams which are really studious but shyly hidden inside the large
>> > package pool of Debian with 30k packages.
>>
>> Indeed. Unfortunately, we haven't been able to properly leverage the
>> blends tools. I wonder how can we find people willing to help out on
>> this? I've been thinking of asking in the upstream user lists for
>> people that might be interested in helping out defining usable
>> metapackages, but I haven't done it yet. Any other ideas?
>
> Well, I can only tell from my experience: It is not promising just to
> talk about the things that should be done. You rather need to do things
> yourself and make it popular. You will make mistakes or forget things
> and people will give hints how to fix this. You should try to approach
> to get something out that makes some sense for the moment.
>
> If I were you I would definitely go together with Rosea Grammostola who
> has created his own metapackge layout at
>
> https://github.com/johnsen/meta-blends
>
> which is even rendered at my test-server:
>
> http://blends.debian.net/meta-blends/tasks/
>
> So there *is* somebody who does reasonable work and I'd regard this
> more reasonable than
>
> http://blends.debian.net/multimedia/tasks/
>
> which is more or less my poor work according to SVN - sometimes due to
> some hints from here. And I would try really hard to verify if it might
> make sense to start from scratch with a 1:1 copy of Rosea's work. The
> rationale behind this advise is that you need to start with something
> that is actually *used* in practise rather than some academic example
> created by some poor outsider (as I consider myself).
>
> As you can see the Blends tools can even work on foreign Git
> repositories and you might negotiate with Rosea whether he might like to
> lead / join / guide this effort.
Indeed, there are several useful tasks. Some are not within the domain
of the pkg-multimedia team, though (the desktop or fluxbox tasks, for
example).
Rosea, would you like to bring the multimedia-related tasks into
debian? We can bring them into the pkg-multimedia git area. Here are
some comments as to the tasks that we could bring back:
Openstudiopro-admin: Outside pkg-multimedia domain (OD)
Openstudiopro-ambisonics: Within doman (WD), but possibly could be
merged into other tasks
Openstudiopro-composing: WD
Openstudiopro-desktop: OD
Openstudiopro-devel: OD
Openstudiopro-djing: WD
Openstudiopro-beat: WD
Openstudiopro-firewire: WD
Fluxbox: OD
Openstudiopro-graphics: Not quite sure, but possibly WD
Openstudiopro-guitar: WD
Openstudiopro-jack: WD
Openstudio-ladi: WD, possibly should be merged with -jack
Openstudiopro-looping: WD
Openstudiopro-midi: WD
Openstudiopro-mixing: WD
Openstudiopro-multimedia: WD, could possibly use a better name
Openstudiopro-muse2build: OD
Openstudiopro-musician: WD
Openstudiopro-muscicnotation: WD
Openstudiopro-plugins-dssi: WD
Openstudiopro-plugins-fst: WD
Openstudiopro-plugins-ladspa: WD
Openstudiopro-plugins-lv2: WD, all these plugins-* tasks could be merged?
Openstudiopro-realtime: Not quite sure, AFAIK a realtime kernel is not
needed these days
Openstudiopro-recording: WD
Openstudiopro-samplers: WD
Openstudiopro-soundsynthesis: WD
Openstudiopro-synths: WD, could be merged with soundsynthesis
Openstudiopro-timestretching: WD, could be merged into plugins?
Openstudiopro-trackers: WD
Openstudiopro-video: WD
--
Saludos,
Felipe Sateler
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