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Re: Please consider maintaining Blends information (Was: Bullet Physics Library)



Hi,

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:16:01AM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote:
> Hi Andreas, others. (dropping the games list and bug since this
> doesn't really concern them).
> 
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> wrote:
> 
> > The same is perfectly valid for Debian Multimedia: Last change was done
> > at 2011-07-27 (by fsateler)[4] and those both teams are missing a really
> > big chance to get new users / developers by failing to drive by the
> > Debian Wheezy release notes which is regarded by a large user base all
> > over the world.  IMHO it is your choice to tell the world:
> >
> >   Hey, there are people inside Debian who care about Games / Multimedia
> >   and we have all this cool stuff for you.  Debian wants to be one of
> >   the big distributions in this field.
> >
> > or you can keep on doing your admitedly fine technical work in your
> > teams which are really studious but shyly hidden inside the large
> > package pool of Debian with 30k packages.
> 
> Indeed. Unfortunately, we haven't been able to properly leverage the
> blends tools. I wonder how can we find people willing to help out on
> this? I've been thinking of asking in the upstream user lists for
> people that might be interested in helping out defining usable
> metapackages, but I haven't done it yet. Any other ideas?

Well, I can only tell from my experience:  It is not promising just to
talk about the things that should be done.  You rather need to do things
yourself and make it popular.  You will make mistakes or forget things
and people will give hints how to fix this.  You should try to approach
to get something out that makes some sense for the moment.

If I were you I would definitely go together with Rosea Grammostola who
has created his own metapackge layout at

   https://github.com/johnsen/meta-blends

which is even rendered at my test-server:

   http://blends.debian.net/meta-blends/tasks/

So there *is* somebody who does reasonable work and I'd regard this
more reasonable than

   http://blends.debian.net/multimedia/tasks/

which is more or less my poor work according to SVN - sometimes due to
some hints from here.  And I would try really hard to verify if it might
make sense to start from scratch with a 1:1 copy of Rosea's work.  The
rationale behind this advise is that you need to start with something
that is actually *used* in practise rather than some academic example
created by some poor outsider (as I consider myself).

As you can see the Blends tools can even work on foreign Git
repositories and you might negotiate with Rosea whether he might like to
lead / join / guide this effort.

Kind regards

       Andreas.

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http://fam-tille.de


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