I see there is a new colo I didn't see where one would use the 'on' 'off' 'serial' commands. Still trying to get the Qube with no serial port to boot :( Gerald -- http://frontstreetnetworks.com | http://raqware.com Front Street Networks LLC, 229 Front Street, Ste.#C New Haven, CT 06513-3203 | phone: +1-203-785-0699