On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:17:02 +0100 Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> wrote: > Neil Williams <codehelp@debian.org> (09/12/2008): > > *shrug*. Knowing the Debian Policy would help compensate that bias. I think you've missed my point - the change is done anyway, it's just done as part of an upstream process not as a separate task. I considered "adding a symbol" as a single task, you (and others) see it as two and I can now see why that happens. It does not mean that the task itself was not being done or that I was unaware of the requirements. I was merely unaware of the division - I saw the entire thing as one, that is all. I didn't recognise that what was being described as "shlib bump" was something I was already doing. > Not to mention that you aren't advising upstreams here, but Debian > packagers, so I'd even expect good knowledge of the Policy. I was not and am not unaware of Policy - just that something that I took for granted was actually not being done in other packages. > > I use symbols instead now and that is a far better system - easier > > to manage upstream too. > > Still, knowing the basics... Not true. > > [Various stats, etc.] I don't think a genuine mistake is grounds to > > disrespect my contribution. > > As I already stated, what I hate is your repeating you're right > (“Cyril, we've had this discussion before” etc.) when you're being > clueless. Making a simple mistake, I apologise for that. > > Umm, adding symbols properly does not require a SONAME bump - you've > > said so yourself. The confusion is what is meant by "properly" - I > > considered "properly" as including the shlibs (or preferably > > symbols) support, not as a separate task. Dumping new symbols into > > the library without any packaging support is not a good idea, I've > > never doubted that. (Just didn't expect others to be neglecting it). > > So you claim you're doing your job right (note that I'm not > questioning that), by playing with symbols while you didn't know > anything about shlibs (read it as “confusing them with SONAME”) > before some minutes ago? Impressive. I know about shlibs, I just didn't identify that for what I thought was one complete step, some packages had only part of the implementation. Anyway, can we move on now? -- Neil Williams ============= http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ http://e-mail.is-not-s.ms/
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