In article <20040427084147.GA2238@comcast.net> you write: >I'm in Mountain View, California. The San Jose California area has a group that meets periodicly. See the http://bad.debian.net/ web site for details. Here in Southern California, we meet irregularly. See http://scd.debian.net/ -- Blars Blarson email@example.com http://www.blars.org/blars.html With Microsoft, failure is not an option. It is a standard feature.