Re: nm.debian.org statistics buggy ?
On Sat, Aug 17, 2002 at 05:04:04PM +1000, Craig Small wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 02:59:17PM +0200, Helios de Creisquer wrote:
> > Without any crystal ball, I am able to say that an applicant waiting
> > since 3 months at this stage will have a total time of waiting superior
> > to 3 months for this stage when his complete application will be done.
> What is it exactly? You've worked out the minimal value that the
> maximum field can be, assuming that this applicant is processed today,
> of course its wrong tomorrow.
hum, the statistics arent a php script ? so they are kept up2date, no ?
so why more wrong tomorrow than today ?
> Now, what about the averages? Do we consider the person who's AM
> recommended him today in the set?
hum that I hadn't thought of... but why not ? what would this change ?
I am considering that every applicant waiting at DAM stage will be
processed (accepted or rejected) one day, and you dont seems to agree...
> If we had four people in the queue, one recommended today, one
> recommended 4 months ago and two recommended 2 months ago. The
> averages are all 2 months. Move them around a bit, then skew the
> statistics where there are a small number of outliers, a lot in the
> middle and a fair few at the smaller end of the scale and you see it
> all becomes a mess quickly.
I sort of agree... but not considering extremes in statistics mean the
statistics are wrong,
I think that needing to remove extrems from stats because of the mess it
would create, means to me that perhaps the statistics would need 1 more
In the stats you include the "actually waiting applicants", why not a
"the longest waiting applicant at this stage waits since ..." ?
The main usage of theses stats are the applicants themselves, which are
looking for an idea of when they will be processed ? no ? In this case,
they will say to themselves: "I am waiting at DAM Approval since 60
days, but the max waiting time is of 68 days, so I will be processed
really soon (great ;-)"
and, when they day will come they are waiting at this stage since more
than the maximal waiting time, they will be a little astonished, isnt'it
> > So why not include not_yet_fully_processed_applicants in the
> > statistics page ?
> Because it is meaningless, the long waiting people are there due to
That's exactly why I didn't included people with a comment from AM/DAM,
cause there is reasons why there are not processed, but for the others ?
I am not really saying the statistics are _wrong_, you have to select
input before making them... but perhaps a lot misleading ? don't you
think so ?
Helios de Creisquer <firstname.lastname@example.org>
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