Regarding database upgrades one needs to ask oneself one simple question: Can users still connect to the previous database after a database upgrade ? If so then upgrading at package install time is fine. If not then upgrading at package install time is insane. Karsten -- GPG key ID E4071346 @ gpg-keyserver.de E167 67FD A291 2BEA 73BD 4537 78B9 A9F9 E407 1346