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Re: Plans for Squeeze release and Alioth accounts.



Hello,

Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 12:08:54PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
>> time flies fast and we are already between one third and the half of this
>> release cycle. I propose that we discuss what are the goals that we would like
>> to acheive in Debian Squeeze.
> 
> Thanks again for this call.  Here are three things I would have in mind:
> 
>   1. Turning the debian-live based live CD Sebastian Hilbert has prepared
>      to provide GNUmed into a general Debian Med live CD and maintain the
>      input files in our SVN.
> 
>      I have not yet dived into debian-live nor am I a big fan of live CDs
>      in general.  But I learned that people are asking for it frequently
>      and IMHO it comes quite cheap with less effort considering Sebastians
>      work.  It would be great if somebody would volunteer to spend some time
>      into this.

How much gain would you see from having a debian-med-bioinformatics live CD separated from
the remainder? Would there be a point? Now that the USB sticks become so cheap, I'd say
no. But when we pay for storage and upload to, say, Amazon's EC2, then we might want to
reconsider.

My personal release goal would be less on a live CD but on an Debiam Med Amazon EC2 AMI
and a routine for its update. Those updates should in my view be performed within Amazon's
via its bundling functionality, not from the outside via David's overhauled VMbuilder, in
order to save traffic costs.

>   2. med-doc: The status of this package is really terrible and I confirm

I was not even much aware of it :) I would be tempted to remove it from any release goal.

>   3. GT.M packages.  When I woke up this morning these three goals came into
>      my mind while I considered this third goal as rather a "release dream"
>      than a release goal because on one hand we really need it to be able
>      to come up with VISTA packages at some point in time but we are just
>      lacking time and competence here.  Guess how happy I was when I later
>      found an e-mail of one of the GT.M coders (K.S. Bhaskar) with subject
>      "Questions for Debian packages for GT.M".  I hope that I was able to
>      convince him to coordinate here on the list and in SVN to get really
>      official Debian packages to move on in the Hospital Information Systems
>      front.

What you are describing is a closer tie to the upstream developers. This is very much in
my favour as well, as you know. We have a few on board or at least clost to board already
(AutoDock, BALL, GNUmed, ..?) and we should listen to them. What I would like to add are

   4. Official ties with user organisations.
      The ISCB (Intelligent Systems in Computation Biology) and BOSC (Bioinforamtics Open
Source Conference) come to mind. They won't work directly on the packaging probably, but
they would strengthen our ties with upstream, help in spreading the news and we'd have
another unified channel back to our users that are not our users, yet. So, a release goal
for me would be pointers from those community sites to a liveCD or AMI of ours with a
statement that they are supporting our efforts.

   5. Extended meta-information for packages, i.e. the pointers to registration sites

Cheers,

Steffen



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