Re: [debian-lts] file package
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015, Christoph Biedl wrote:
> > NACK is just rude.
>
> It's a stern warning that something is going wrong here. Kept short
> since the first thing is to avoid an upload that causes trouble, and
> there was no information how much time there is left.
« Please don't upload this, it's not working. I don't have time to
give more details right now but you can verify that it doesn't work
with the reproducer available in the bug report » is short and respectful.
> If you call that rude I don't know I should call the compliments I
> have received for my attempts to improve Debian.
I don't know what you have suffered in your attempts to improve Debian,
and I'm sorry if you got rude comments too. But it's not a reason to
perpetuate such bad habits.
> > For the records, I don't see your name in
> > https://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/secure-testing/data/dla-needed.txt?view=markup
> > which is where we indicate that we plan to take care of applying
> > the relevant security fixes of a given package to squeeze-lts.
>
> I indeed forgot about that this time. So go ahead.
Nguyent already replied to you[1] to inform you that you can go ahead
and the he discarded his work. I updated dla-needed.txt to put your name.
[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2015/02/msg00041.html
> > It's always nice when maintainers want to join the LTS effort, but
> > most maintainers are not interested in taking care of their packages in
> > squeeze-lts so it's quite common to release LTS updates without any
> > coordination with the maintainer.
>
> And that's a bad thing. The maintainer very likely has more experience
> with the package than anybody else, and also with the packaging. Knows
> the gotchas in the code. Has out-of-tree test suites, and better
> connections to upstream.
>
> Plus, when preparing up to four updates for an issue, a cross-
> distribution comparion helps to identify possible shortcomings in the
> fix.
I certainly agree with this, but not all maintainers want to take care of
their packages in old releases. So what should our ideal workflow be ?
Shall we ping the maintainers when we add a package to dla-needed.txt and
put debian-lts@lists.debian.org in copy so that everybody who helps can
know the maintainer's answer ?
Cheers,
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Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer
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