Re: Global and local lists (for packages) in live-builder
For the benefit of others that missed the earlier irc conversation, here
are some excerpts:
07:19 < SynrG> take it up with the individual maintainers of each of
those things. need a
different subset of latex? there are latex maintainers.
there's no reason such a
list should be useful for live systems but *not*
07:22 < SynrG> similarly with awesome, if an awesome-desktop metapackage
is something people
could agree on and would be generally useful, it should
be in the archive ...
07:23 < SynrG> not languishing in the realm of debian-live where few
people will ever find it
07:24 < SynrG> the lists we have either have broad applicability (our
-desktop lists for
example) to a large userbase and differ from the
standard tasks only in that they
also include stuff *specific to a live image* ...
07:26 < SynrG> or are lists addressing a need tied to a special working
group within debian
which itself has a goal to produce a live image ('debian
pure blends' like
debian-science or debian-junior)
07:26 < SynrG> i guess 'studio' falls in this category too
07:28 < SynrG> or in the rare case address some 'appliance' niche
specifically well-suited to
live media (the 'rescue' list is what i'm thinking of)
07:29 < SynrG> the other lists there are very basic building blocks of
the other lists
(standard, standard-x11, minimal, for example)
07:30 < SynrG> so as you can see, the lists are a very narrowly chosen
subset of the entire
universe of possible lists. there is no desire to grow
these lists beyond what we
have there now, and i would argue in some cases we may
even need to *reduce* what
we have there ...
07:31 < SynrG> i am not certain there is any reason to continue to
support the junior lists, for
instance, since that project is orphaned and nobody has
stepped up to take it
07:31 < SynrG> the only reason they've not been removed is (so far)
nobody has had any
complaints. but at the first sign of trouble, i'd drop
them in an instant.
07:34 < SynrG> ironm: can we finally close this issue? the marvellous
thing about debian-live is
that *infinite* variations of lists are possible.
*every* user thinks their own
lists are the greatest and probably wants to share them
with the world. and we
already link to other users of debian-live on the site
so that people can borrow
liberally from each others' lists, and that's not very
hard for users to find
(and keeps the maintenance of said ...
07:34 < SynrG> ... lists where it belongs: with the users who originated