Bug#787009: please add lintian warnings to prepare removing bash as an essential package

[Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org>]

Hi!

On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 07:12:18 +0200, Niels Thykier wrote:
> On 2015-06-01 00:17, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > This was discussed in the past, I tried to summarize the discussion of
> > the time here:
> > 
> >   <https://wiki.debian.org/Proposals/RemoveBashFromEssential>
> > 
> > and recently in:
> > 
> >   <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/09/msg00875.html>
> > 
> > While I agree with that goal, there seems are still some unresolved
> > contentious points. And reiterating the same discussion does not
> > seem much productive, instead of just tackling the blockers instead.

> Truly this has been discussed in the past.  However,
> 
>   * What I object to is Lintian being the messenger of this proposal
>     being (re)started.
> 
> I fear is that half the people in Debian will simply think Lintian went
> crazy over night and that it cannot be trusted any longer.  That plus
> the possible rain of "false-positive" bugs are two things I want to avoid.

Sorry, I guess I didn't express myself clearly. I was not suggesting
that the lintian check was a blocker (or at least an initial one), only
that it seems to me to try to move forward this proposal, the current
blockers would need to be tackled first, before starting again such
discussion and enabling such lintian check.

What I see as current blockers, and the contentious part I mentioned
above are at least the login and root shell issues from that wiki page.
If those are not solved I assume d-d might not find any such plan
credible and as such the expected effort implied by the lintian check
might get easily opposed, like last time.

Thanks,
Guillem