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Re: Advice regarding deleted images on Commons (tarot deck)

Ok get it it seems

Ask to the BNF desk the acquision history.


On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 4:47 PM, roucaries bastien
<roucaries.bastien+debian@gmail.com> wrote:
> Or here
> http://images.bnf.fr/jsp/index.jsp
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 4:43 PM, roucaries bastien
> <roucaries.bastien+debian@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ok go here for research
>> http://www.bnf.fr/fr/collections_et_services/anx_dep/a.estampes_photographie_classement.html
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 4:41 PM, roucaries bastien
>> <roucaries.bastien+debian@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Goffi <goffi@goffi.org> wrote:
>>>> Le 06/04/2013 23:45, John Vandenberg a écrit :
>>>>> [SNIP]
>>>>> Do the copyright check yourself.  Do you know of an online resource that
>>>>> shows a Piatnik deck with a rough publishing date, so they can be used for
>>>>> comparison?
>>>>> You might find a close substitute desks in the following collection.
>>>>> CC:ing pysolffc project maintainer and contributor as xe may know the
>>>>> copyright status of the desk you are interested in.
>>>>> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/pysolfc-cardsets/+copyright
>>>> Hi John,
>>>> I'm Jérôme Poisson, the author of the "Salut à Toi" project.
>>>> We have spent a couple of hours looking for alternative decks (either the
>>>> resolution is too low - that's the case for pysolffc -, either the deck is
>>>> too ugly or we are not sure about the copyright), and for proof that the
>>>> Piatnik deck is in public domain. We are sure it's a Piatnik deck (we can
>>>> compare the 10 and the 20 of trumpt on this page:
>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/tacticclub/Home/introduction/l-histoire-du-tarot
>>>> or we can see several copies of randoms cards on the web), but we haven't
>>>> found any creation date of the deck, so we are not 100 % sure and can't
>>>> proof that the deck was indeed made by Ferdinand Piatnik (which died in
>>>> 1885), even if there is a high probability that this is the case. That's
>>>> pity, this deck is beautiful and the resolution is quite high.
>>> Ask to the BNF an acess right to their own tarot desk and do ca comparaison.
>>> Thomas if you are still under the public french system of research you
>>> could do easilly. Pay the fee to the BNF (asking to your thesis
>>> advisor the letter), and ask for seeing the document.
>>> I have see this game at a temporary exposition long time ago at the
>>> BNF, and by memory it is in their collection.
>>> I do not know if gallica allow to search under the estampe. You should
>>> ask to the desk.
>>> Bastien
>>>> For the record, the deck is this one:
>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:20071103100945!Tarotcards.jpg
>>>> Thanks for your help
>>>> Jérôme Poisson
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