On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:09:52 +0100 Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Francesco Poli said: > > This still concerns me... > > I have previously discussed the issue on debian-legal, but I'm not > > yet convinced that this clause passes the DFSG. > > > > What I do not understand basically boils down to: > > > > How can a license (allow a licensor to) forbid an accurate credit > > and meet the DFSG at the same time? [...] > And why do you think this violates the DFSG? Clause 3, which you are > citing, says that the license must allow derived works, and must allow > derivates to be licensed under the same terms as the original license. > I see nothing in there that even remotely implies the original author > can't take their name out of it. Leaving aside practical issues, how > are you arguing that a request to remove a name either changes the > licensing terms or prohibits derivation? Well, it prohibits an entire class of derivative works: the ones that (accurately) credit the author of the original work! As I said elsewhere: I can release an annotate version of a CC-licensed novel, but I could be forbidden to accurately acknowledge the authorship of the novel I comment on! Don't you feel it's awkward? I think that forcing modifiers to hide the origin of the work is non-free. Moreover, there's another aspect that concerns me: I'm compelled to credit the author of the original work (see clause 4(d) of CC-by-sa-nc-v3draft0808060) until I receive a request to purge such credit. Does this mean that I must take action upon request, even after the derivative work has been released, and re-release a revised version? What if I do not have enough time to do that? Isn't this a restriction placed on my future life, after I released the derivative work (when I fullfilled all my obligations, apart from the ones that were yet unknown)? -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ ..................................................... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4
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