On 19 Aug 2005 07:28:20 GMT MJ Ray wrote: > Francesco Poli <frx@winstonsmith.info> wrote: > > Trying other 'forums' will probably produce a *different* answer. > > We use the DFSG as the guidelines to determine if a work is free or > > not. Other groups/foundations/projects use *different* criteria. > > Maybe, but there's not really much difference in result most times. I'm not so sure... :-( See MPL, QPL, GFDL, CC-by, CC-by-sa, ... in http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html See MPL, QPL, ... in http://www.opensource.org/licenses/index.html > > > I'm referring to well-known cases such as Debian and FSF disagreeing > > about the GFDL, and similar ones. > > Do they? FSF don't claim it's a free software licence, but that the > desire for it to be one isn't sensible (or something like that). Granted. But when the question is "is the GFDL a license suitable to release free documentation?" their answer is very different from our... :-( > > Anyway, yes, non-program licences and patent-related problems are > things where debian-legal has a slightly different opinion to FSF > leadership, but most aren't about those, licence proliferation is > bad and we've done "what licence for text" to death in the archive. We have so *few* DFSG-free non-programs, that I don't consider this as a minor issue... I'm worried about this possible scenario: * a user comes to us seeking for license analysis or recommendation * we tell her "if you are not talking about a Debian (prospective) package, go away" * she finds another 'forum' and follows their analyses and recommendations * sooner or later she becomes an author and writes something useful * she chooses the license based on what she was recommended * many other people contribute to her work * an RFP or ITP is filed against that work in the Debian BTS * it's time for debian-legal to check the license * ouch! the work does not comply with the DFSG: must be rejected from main * it's too late to persuade people to relicense: another work is lost Maybe we could have talked to her earlier in this process... :-( -- :-( This Universe is buggy! Where's the Creator's BTS? ;-) ...................................................................... Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4
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