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Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe

Brian Thomas Sniffen <bts@alum.mit.edu> writes:

> Måns Rullgård <mru@inprovide.com> writes:
>> The Eclipse authors do not tell you which JVM to use.
> But Debian does, when it says:
> Depends: j2re1.4 | j2re1.3 | java2-runtime
> So the eclipse-platform distributed by Debian *does* call on a
> particular JVM.  And it isn't kaffe, it's Sun's.

Then why on earth does the license of Kaffe have any relevance
whatsoever to Eclipse?

> We do document the technical fact that you can programatically
> substitute kaffe for any java-runtime.

So?  How does this make Eclipse a derivative of Kaffe?

>> It is compiled against an interface, not an implementation.  Which
>> particular implementation was used while compiling is irrelevant.
> Can you support this assertion?  The program, including its libraries,
> which the developer intends to put on end-user systems appears quite
> relevant to me.

If I write a program in Java (it has happened), I intend for the
end-user to run it under any JVM of his choice.  I don't care which
one chooses.  The only reason I can see for suggesting a specific
implementation is for support issues, e.g. "we only provide support
for running our product under JVM implementation X".

Måns Rullgård

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