Re: Is javacc DFSG compliant?
Ken Arromdee <email@example.com> writes:
> This may be a side issue, but could someone explain to me how "you
> acknowledge that ____" can fit the DFSG no matter what is acknowledged?
> It sounds like the equivalent of "if you distribute this software, you must
> pet a cat", only instead of petting a cat, you have to make an
> acknowledgement. Presumably making the acknowledgement has some negative
> effect on the user (otherwise nobody would bother demanding one), so you're
> demanding the user give up some of his rights.
I think it's only for purposes of estoppel.
> Consider this hypothetical: I want to use the software in a nuclear power
> plant. My lawyers advise me not to make the acknowledgement, because doing
> so might make it harder to later take Sun to court if I have to. I refuse
> to acknowledge that the software is not intended for nuclear plants, but I
> copy and use the software anyway. Am I now in violation of the license?
Your lawyers are insane. It's illegal to use this software in nuclear
power plants. Yes, I suppose those laws could change. But the fact
that it isn't designed for use in a nuke is *true*. I don't see any
fee or other non-free requirement in silent and private
acknowledgement of true facts.
> I know that "you must acknowledge that" doesn't mean you need to mail Sun a
> written statement bearing an acknowledgement, but I don't think that makes a
> difference. Would a license "you must acknowledge that Jesus is
> Lord" be free?
That's not provably true. Sun, being the designer of the software,
can make unambiguously true statements about the design.
Similarly, you must acknowledge that I have written the word "Sun".
> Or a license "you must acknowledge that any damage you might suffer as a
> result of using this software is no greater than 99 cents"?
That's very far from true.
> If not, why is "you must acknowledge <something that might put you
> at a disadvantage in court>" free?
Because the acknowledgement is trivially proven to be true. I agree
that if there's any question about the truth of the statement, it's
not free. But for trivially true cases, I don't think it matters.
Brian Sniffen firstname.lastname@example.org