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Re: Bug#212895: Official Logo is not DFSG Free (with patch)

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Don Armstrong wrote:
>> [I'm not interested in playing bts tennis.]
> Thanks.

Although it would have be nice if you would have just tagged it
wontfix and/or sarge-ignore and kept it open so the discussion could
have been Cc:'ed to the bug.

>> When originally written, it was intented that the DFSG apply to the
>> entire content of main.[1] We have (to my knowledge) consistently
>> interpreted it this way.
> For documentation I can still understand the reasoning but a logo? A
> logo in order to be a a logo has to be very strictly defined. 

Precisely, which is exactly why we do not distribute the official logo
in main.

>> That might be true, but it's ambiguity doesn't change it's free or
>> non-freeness.
> Yes but it suggests that the issue can be resolved without taking
> drastic steps.

I don't think replacing the official logo with the open use logo is
drastic... especially since the patch is so trivial.

>> I'm not discussing the legality of your distribution of the official
>> logo, merely the fact that the offical logo is not free.
> So make it free then.

That would (most likely) require the proposal of a GR or a change in
terms by whoever holds the trademark (SPI?). Until the GR passes, the
official logo is still not free, and shouldn't be in main.

Don Armstrong

Debian's not really about the users or the software at all. It's a
large flame-generating engine that the cabal uses to heat their coffee
 -- Andrew Suffield (#debian-devel Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:34 -0500)


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