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Re: Bug#212895: Official Logo is not DFSG Free (with patch)

[Jaldar: I'm shifting this discussion to debian-legal and maintaining
you on the Cc: list. Appologies if you are subscribed.]

[Legal: I'm leaving the bug closed for right now, since I'm not
interested in playing bts tennis.]

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
>> I'm reopening this bug because the official logo is non-free. [It
>> fails multiple parts of the DFSG, including #1, #3, #6, #8... the
>> list goes on.]
> The list is irrelevant as the applicability of the Debian Free
> _Software_ guidelines to graphical images is even more dubious than
> its applicability to documentation.

When originally written, it was intented that the DFSG apply to the
entire content of main.[1] We have (to my knowledge) consistently
interpreted it this way.

> Sorry but one or two peoples personal opinions do not make Debian
> policy.

I was merely linking to examples of discussion. I'm relatively certain
that there is a broad consensus on -legal that the official logo is
not DFSG free. [If I'm mistaken, please correct me.]

> I am closing this bug again for the same reason I closed it
> initially. Like treating the bubonic plague by giving the victim a
> hanky, you are trying to cure a minor symptom instead of the cause.
> The logo license is ambiguous.

That might be true, but it's ambiguity doesn't change it's free or

> |1. This logo may only be used if:

I'm not discussing the legality of your distribution of the official
logo, merely the fact that the offical logo is not free.

> If you are really interested in being useful, get this fixed before
> the sarge release or get the official logo yanked altogether (unless
> there is a reason a non-free logo can be used on webpages and not
> packages.)

The non-free logo can be used anywhere that its license allows.
However, it cannot be included in packages that are in main, as it is
not DSFG free.

Don Armstrong

A citizen of America will cross the ocean to fight for democracy, but
won't cross the street to vote in a national election.
 -- Bill Vaughan


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