On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 06:31:00PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 15:21, Joel Baker wrote: > > The TinyMUSH package is not DFSG-free, > > Agreed. There are some additional problems: > > > * TinyMUSH 3.0 Copyright > > * > > * Users of this software incur the obligation to make their best efforts to > > * inform the authors of noteworthy uses of this software. > > Fails the desert island test (though the desert island test originally > was modifications, so this may be even worse). That being the most glaring problem, and the reason it caught my eye (on scanning some archived ITP stuff for other reasons). > > * > > * All materials developed as a consequence of the use of this software > > * shall duly acknowledge such use, in accordance with the usual standards > > * of acknowledging credit in academic research. > > Unclear, but I don't see a problem here as long as its interpreted > reasonably. It is possible that if interpreted less nicely, this would > contaminate other works (for example, are data files used with the > package covered?) Context: the derivatives of TinyMUD are all "game" servers which provide a virtual world for people to interact in. The context in which this was almost certainly meant would, in fact, cover data files - the "world" which was developed using the server as an organizational tool. I don't claim to speak for the author's intent, but I would *not* assume that their intent would not contaminate data files; historically, this clause has been assumed to by many people involved in the development/user community. > > * > > * TinyMUSH 3.0 may be used for commercial, for-profit applications, subject > > * to the following conditions: You must acknowledge the origin of the > > * software, retaining this copyright notice in some prominent place. > > * You may charge only for access to the service you provide, not for > > * the TinyMUSH 3.0 software itself. You must inform the authors of any > > * commercial use of this software. > > Informing thing again. Yup. > > To the best of my knowlege, there is nothing in any of the licenses > > involved in any version of TinyMUSH which would prevent distribution, even > > in patched binary form, so it should be fine for non-free > > No. Nothing in that license gives us permission to modify, copy, or > distribute that software. By default, we don't have those permissions. Hmmm. I would bet that they did an exceedingly poor job of wording an intent that includes other license texts which occur previously in the full file (which are more benign; more or less being a 3-clause BSD license, under which the modifications from 1.x to 2.0/2.2 were released). The origional 1.x licensing is also... messy, so I wouldn't assume even a 2.0 or 2.2 release would be DFSG-free, short of someone doing a lot of legwork to demonstrate otherwise (author contacts, etc). -- Joel Baker <fenton@debian.org> ,''`. Debian GNU NetBSD/i386 porter : :' : `. `' `-
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