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Re: The debate on Invariant sections (long)



On Tue, 13 May 2003 22:33:38 +0200
jmarant@nerim.net (Jérôme Marant) wrote:
> > You're asking us to keep non-Free documentation in main. The
> > difference between that and asking to "include components in main"
> > is irrelevant and a lawyer's point.
> 
> Again, you do consider DFSG applies to documentation. If so, I agree
> with you. But I'm personaly not convinced (yet) it should be.

Playing the devil's advocate here, let's pretend that "legally" it
doesn't. You still think we should include obviously non-Free
documentation in main? I mean, doesn't that go against the *spirit* of
Free Software, at the very least?

> >> RMS himself gave no hope to a near modification of the GNU FDL.
> >
> > I don't care what RMS may or may not do. Why do *you*? It is
> > completely
> 
> Because it was RMS's reply that was quoted in the first message of the
> thread, don't you recall?

You mentioned a specific example; Emacs documentation. Thus, whatever
political goals RMS may have is irrelevant to the discussion, as is his
thoughts on the nature of non-Free stuff being "ethical".

*We* only care about whether it's Free or not. We don't what RMS may
have done in the past for Free Software, not in this _specific_ example.
We only care whether or not it's Free.

> > irrelevant to the discussion. All that matters is whether the
> > licenses are Free, or not. It's that simple.
> 
> And also if we have a hope to see the license being modified.

Of course, we all do - and you're wanting to get it changed by ignoring
its non-Free nature?

> > So, to sum up: I don't care what RMS may or may not be doing at this
> > very moment. I don't care about your opinions towards GNU. The only
> > thing I care about is whether the GNU Emacs documentation is covered
> > by a non-Free license or a Free license.
> 
> No you don't care: you don't use Emacs.

Excuse me? I use it regularly. It's not my regular editor though, and I
constantly consult the on-line docs. So arguably it could affect me more
than it affects a seasoned user.

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