On Thu, 2003-05-08 at 03:36, Anthony Towns wrote: > > We're not talking about music; we're talking about *sound > > recordings*. > > Actually, we're just talking about embedding sound in a GNU FDL document. > Music, in case you hadn't noticed, is one form sound takes. That's right. You seem to keep wanting to discuss musical scores, which are a small subset of all sound. > All the C code in the world won't let you recreate the last build I did > either, unless I also give you the compiler I used. Big deal. Depending on the license. > Well, no, it's not. The question is what changes do you want to make. If > you want to change the location of two icons in a program, I don't > think you're going to be able to do that if I give you a hexdump of an > ELF executable. Why not? Personally, I've changed programs using hex dumps (though it was PEF, not ELF, but that's doubtfully relevant). > OTOH, I don't think there are any "revisions" you can > make to any sound file that you can't also make with a text editor to > a suitable text dump of a WAV file. OK, try this one: Resample a hex-dumped WAV file from 48KHz to 44.1KHz using your text editor. Or mix several tracks down to one. Or do a phade out. Or, well, do just about anything. Sure, it's possible --- in the sense "anything is possible". But it makes my job of moving that icon in an ELF executable look trivial. > Same > thing with most of the edits you want to do to a sound file. Some things > are easy, some things aren't. Big deal. Yeah, and generally, when a license is the cause of the extreme uneasyness of modifying things, we don't call it "free" > That's completely irrelevant too: the question that's answering is whether > the formats specifically designed to thwart modifications. It's not. No. It is very relevant. The question is if making revisions is "[straightforward] with generic text editors." > That's wrong too: that would merely be an opaque copy which is entirely > allowable, as long as you distribute a transparent copy as well. Of which, for sound, it appears there is no such thing as far as the FDL is concerned.
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