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new laptop: compiling source for i7 CPUs???



One laptop I'm looking at buying offers these CPU options:

* 4 Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4700MQ Processor ( 2.4 GHz 6MB L3 Cache - 4 Cores plus Hyperthreading )

* 4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4800MQ Processor ( 2.7 GHz 6MB L3 Cache - 4 Cores plus Hyperthreading )

* 4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4900MQ Processor ( 2.8 GHz 8MB L3 Cache - 4 Cores plus Hyperthreading )

There are considerable price increases with each quite small increase in speed-- hundreds of dollars--, but over two or three years I think the extra dollars would be worth the performance increase... *IF* there is a noticeable performance increase.

This would depend to a large degree upon the code... specifically, if the code (OS and apps) makes use of the expanded instruction sets of the more expensive CPUs. Generally the code doesn't, unless gcc/make is configured for the particular CPU and then that source is compiled. I've done this in the (distant) past and noticed a significant increase in performance over the stock executables provided by the distro.

Though I'm currently not using debian, it's what I'm planning to use. From the web I find that the latest stable wheezy has gcc 4.6, but the manual for that version doesn't seem to offer many option for core i7 cpus, let alone options which distinguish the three CPUs above.

http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.6.4/gcc/i386-and-x86_002d64-Options.html#i386-and-x86_002d64-Options says "mtune" can be set to one of these:

corei7
Intel Core i7 CPU with 64-bit extensions, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1 and SSE4.2 instruction set support.
corei7-avx
Intel Core i7 CPU with 64-bit extensions, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AES and PCLMUL instruction set support.
core-avx-i
Intel Core CPU with 64-bit extensions, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AES, PCLMUL, FSGSBASE, RDRND and F16C instruction set support.

Does 'cpuinfo' tell us about all of these when they're present, or are we supposed to find out some other way?

These three options wouldn't seem to come close to specifying all the various core i7 CPUs there are and optimizing for all the features of each. Getting *some* of the additional instructions offered by i7s would certainly help performance over what the standard distro offers, but probably still not enough to warrant the extra expense of the higher-end CPUs.

http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.6.4/gcc/i386-and-x86_002d64-Options.html#i386-and-x86_002d64-Options also offers:

native
This selects the CPU to tune for at compilation time by determining the processor type of the compiling machine. Using -mtune=native will produce code optimized for the local machine under the constraints of the selected instruction set. Using -march=native will enable all instruction subsets supported by the local machine (hence the result might not run on different machines).

but, again, does it make a distinction between the three CPUs cited at top (and yet others)? If the code produced for all three CPUs is the identical, then there isn't much point in spending for the costlier CPUs.

And does using "native" give better or worse results than specifying one of the core* options?

Also, when compiling a kernel to run on a VM, should some other gcc option(s) be used?


At this point I'd just be making wild guesses about how all this actually works out. So does anyone have experience with, or maybe some inside knowledge about, any of this?

If so, thanks for any light you can shed.


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