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Re: Back to Windows??



On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 08:12:09PM +0100, Hans Verschoor and Jennie Kohsiek wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Craig T. Milling" <c-milli@physics.uiuc.edu>
> To: "'Debian-Laptop (E-mail)" <debian-laptop@lists.debian.org>
> Cc: "Christopher Wolf" <debianlists@thewolfden.org>; "Craig Milling"
> <ctmilling@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 6:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Back to Windows??


> >
> > Here are some concrete positives (in my experience) for why you would
> > *want* to run Linux as more than just a hobbyist.
> >
> > (1) You control the interface.  You have a choice of window managers,
> > GNOME, KDE.  *You* get to decide how you want to interact with the
> > computer, not Bill Gates.

> Hans:
> In the first place these window managers are Windows look-alikes, especially
> KDE that was intentionally designed to be as Windows as Windows can be
> i.m.h.o. In the second place, I do not have this insurpressibke urge to
> "decide by myself" if others offer a good solution, named Bill or not.

Fair enough, although these environments are not Windows look-alikes (or
work-alikes).

> >
> > (2) Stability.  It is a pleasure knowing that I can leave my laptop
> > running for days/weeks at a time and it won't crash.  Even if there is a
> > misbehaving application, it can be killed without destabilizing everything
> > else.

> Hans.
> I do run KDE, and the browser and office applications crash on a regular
> basis and in fact much more often than the Seattle counterparts.

These are immature applications.  They will get more stable, especially if you
report your bugs.

> >
> > (3) Free.  As in beer.  I really like the fact that the next
> > kernel/GNOME/gnuplot/emacs upgrade won't cost me $90-$100.  It's free.
> > Yes it costs some time, but (2) makes up for that.

> Hans:
> The money issue is relative, Japanese companies are now kicking Linux out
> because they discover that they are spending huge sums at "Linux
> specialists" maintaining their systems.

Unix systems = 1 administrator.  Windows systems = 10 admin/helpdesk
personnel.  I don't think that Windows is any cheaper to maintain or support.
It has one advantage -- more people are familiar with it. 

> >
> > (4) Free.  As in speech.  The source code is open, which means no one has
> > control over your computer.  It also helps combat software obsolence and
> > forced upgrades by having file formats open.

> Hans:
> I  don't follow this argumentation. The fact that the source is open is in
> no relation that your computer is not controlled. I am not an OS expert, I
> don't want to be an OS expert I don't want to look into sources that are not
> part of my core business, I want the software to work correctly and
> therefore yes: Any software controls my computer.

This is the driving force of it all, whether you want to jump on board or not,
this is why the "revolution" has occurred so rapidly.

> >
> > (5) Unixisms: True multitasking, multiuser capabilities.  You don't have
> > to worry about nuking important files (as long as your not root!).  You
> > don't have to worry about being bit by the LOVE BUG.  You can lock down
> > services to hold script-kiddies at bay.  You can share your computer with
> > other users w/o them messing up your files and desktop.

> Hans:
> Misargumentation, the file protection system of let's say NT or W2000 is
> much more sophisticated than UNIX, alas for you but that's a fact and I will
> not share my computer. And for viruses, yes you have to be a bit more
> careful, a bit less naive, that's true.

You're arguing about ACLs.  Linux (I believe) supports ACLs in kernel 2.4.  
Regardless, the Unix file "protection" paradigm is simple, more manageable and 
usable than access control lists.  "Sophistication" doesn't make something 
better.

> >
> > It is difficult.  It seems everything involving setup and installation is
> > difficult the first time, but the time spent is an investment, not a loss.
> > The next time you do something it gets easier.  I would recommend you aim
> > low.  Set up a dual boot configuration so you can always use Windows.
> > Then install Linux and work on it a little bit at a time.  Get a command
> > line going, then X, then compile a kernel specific to your machine.  First
> > get your NIC going, then sound card, then ... Yes it may take awhile, but
> > you will find yourself being slowly won over to Linux.  Then the next
> > computer you get, things will go much faster.

> Hans:
> Again, from my objectives of using my computer, these investment are pure
> losses. I don't want a dual boot system, my computer is a server, so
> hopefully boots a few times a year. I have no intention to become a kernel
> hacker, an inventoe or a whizkid, my objective is to have a stable simple
> server machine on the shortest term possible. And don't forget, companies
> switching to Linux usually have exactly this reason.

If you just want a server, I'm not certain why you run KOffice.  Anyhow, you've
made a very sound choice with Linux, I hope that you continue to use it. 


> >
> > Don't forget that a computer is just a tool.  If you need all your
> > hardware, use the preinstalled OS.  If you also need some of the GNU tools
> > (tar,awk, ...) install Cygwin, or dual boot.
> >

> Hans:
> Right on !
> Linux should not be a cult, but I think it is by now .....

> > My testimonial:  I got my laptop in Jan,1999 (an ARM TS759.  ARM is very
> > linux friendly and even offers preinstalled RedHat.  I specifically asked
> > about Linux before buying).  My NIC (a generic 10baseT) was supported off
> > the bat.  It took about 6 mos for the soundcard driver to make it into the
> > stable kernel.  I would still use Windows regularly.  Eventually my
> > windows use was only for games and all my work was done in Linux.  Finally
> > I got bored of the games.  The last time I booted into windows was 6 mos
> > ago, and last week I got rid of the last fat partition on my disk.
> >

> Hans:
> Mine: I got an all Linux compatible hardware set, because I checked all
> components before. Got Debian 2.2.18pre21 and the result: I can't print on a
> HP2100 (mentioned to be "perfect" for Linux), I can't tar to a DI-30
> tapestreamer (proudly declared: "Linux certified" by the manufacturer), I'm
> doubtful if my network will work and it will probable take another year
> before I get my ADSL modem working. I will install W2000 in the days to come
> and if everything works: "bye bye Linux".

The docs are there to do all that you need, if you're not willing to invest
some time researching, then you are in the wrong field.


> > Craig Milling
> >
> > PS.  If you made it down this far, thanks for reading my rambling missive.
> > :)
> >

> Hans:
> As you can see, I made it.

> > ____________________
> > Dr. Craig T. Milling
> > c-milli@uiuc.edu
> > Dept. of Physics, Univ. of Illinois
> > Phone: 217/333-1930
> >
> >
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             A narcissist is someone better looking than you are.
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                                  Ambiguity:
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     One difference between a man and a machine is that a machine is quiet
                                when well oiled.

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     If you go out of your mind, do it quietly, so as not to disturb those
                                  around you.

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    Before Xerox, five carbons were the maximum extension of anybody's ego.

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     Why do mathematicians insist on using words that already have another
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    doesn't happen at a corner, but at an edge, it nonetheless happens at a
                                    corner."

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                           Lift every voice and sing
                          Till earth and heaven ring,
                      Ring with the harmonies of Liberty;
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                          High as the listening skies,
                    Let it resound loud as the rolling sea.

        Sing a song full of the faith that the dark past has taught us.
          Sing a song full of the hope that the present has bought us.
                  Facing the rising sun of our new day begun,
                      Let us march on till victory is won.
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                           If all the seas were ink,
                          And all the reeds were pens,
                       And all the skies were parchment,
                          And all the men could write,
                            These would not suffice
                         To write down all the red tape
                              Of this Government.

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   > I've hacked the Xaw3d library to give you a Win95 like interface and it
             > is named Xaw95. You can replace your Xaw3d library.
                         Oh God, this is so disgusting!
        	-- seen on c.o.l.development.apps, about the "Win95 look-alike"

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    Thousands of days of civilians ... have produced a ... feeling for the
                             aesthetic modules --

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          What sin has not been committed in the name of efficiency?

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          My idea of roughing it turning the air conditioner too low.

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                        There is no sin but ignorance.
                           		-- Christopher Marlowe

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  Like, if I'm not for me, then fer shure, like who will be?  And if, y'know,
   if I'm not like fer anyone else, then hey, I mean, what am I?  And if not
    now, like I dunno, maybe like when?  And if not Who, then I dunno, maybe
                            like the Rolling Stones?
           		-- Rich Rosen (Rabbi Valiel's paraphrase of famous quote
                       		   attributed to Rabbi Hillel.)

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  For the first time we have a weapon that nobody has used for thirty years.
                 This gives me great hope for the human race.
                              		-- Harlan Ellison

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                          Only a fool has no doubts.

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                 If you flaunt it, expect to have it trashed.

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         There are two kinds of pedestrians... the quick and the dead.
                          		-- Lord Thomas Rober Dewar

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 What do you have when you have six lawyers buried up to their necks in sand?
                               Not enough sand.

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           When I was crossing the border into Canada, they asked if
        I had any firearms with me.  I said, "Well, what do you need?"
                              		-- Steven Wright

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    What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists?  In that case, I
                      definitely overpaid for my carpet.
                     		-- Woody Allen, "Without Feathers"

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       The Anglo-Saxon conscience does not prevent the Anglo-Saxon from
            sinning, it merely prevents him from enjoying his sin.
                           		--Salvador De Madariaga

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   If the colleges were better, if they really had it, you would need to get
   the police at the gates to keep order in the inrushing multitude.  See in
   college how we thwart the natural love of learning by leaving the natural
  method of teaching what each wishes to learn, and insisting that you shall
   learn what you have no taste or capacity for.  The college, which should
     be a place of delightful labor, is made odious and unhealthy, and the
  young men are tempted to frivolous amusements to rally their jaded spirits.
     I would have the studies elective.  Scholarship is to be created not
    by compulsion, but by awakening a pure interest in knowledge.  The wise
      instructor accomplishes this by opening to his pupils precisely the
 attractions the study has for himself.  The marking is a system for schools,
  not for the college; for boys, not for men; and it is an ungracious work to
                              put on a professor.
                           		-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

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  "See - the thing is - I'm an absolutist.  I mean, kind of ... in a way ..."

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        	"Richard, in being so fierce toward my vampire, you were doing
      what you wanted to do, even though you thought it was going to hurt
              somebody else. He even told you he'd be hurt if..."
                       	"He was going to suck my blood!"
        	"Which is what we do to anyone when we tell them we'll be hurt
                          if they don't live our way."
                                      ...
      	"The thing that puzzles you," he said, "is an accepted saying that
    happens to be impossible.  The phrase is hurt somebody else.  We choose,
   ourselves, to be hurt or not to be hurt, no matter what.  Us who decides.
 Nobody else.  My vampire told you he'd be hurt if you didn't let him?  That's
   his decision to be hurt, that's his choice.  What you do about it is your
  decision, your choice: give him blood; ignore him; tie him up; drive a stake
  through his heart.  If he doesn't want the holly stake, he's free to resist,
        in whatever way he wants.  It goes on and on, choices, choices."
                       	"When you look at it that way..."
        	"Listen," he said, "it's important.  We are all.  Free.  To do.
                          Whatever.  We want.  To do."
                         		-- Richard Bach, "Illusions"

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                         Last guys don't finish nice.
           		-- Stanley Kelley, on the cult of victory at all costs

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                      Never kick a man, unless he's down.

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                 Going the speed of light is bad for your age.

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                  Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth,
                And danced the skies on laughter silvered wings;
               Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth
                 Of sun-split clouds and done a hundred things
                           You have not dreamed of --
                          Wheeled and soared and swung
                          High in the sunlit silence.
                                 Hovering there
                 I've chased the shouting wind along and flung
                 My eager craft through footless halls of air.
                      Up, up along delirious, burning blue
              I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace,
                     Where never lark, or even eagle flew;
                 And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod
                    The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
                 Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.
                  		-- John Gillespie Magee Jr., "High Flight"

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              Next, upon a stool, we've a sight to make you drool.
             Seven virgins and a mule, keep it cool, keep it cool.
                		-- ELP, "Karn Evil 9" (1st Impression, Part 2)

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      	Now, you might ask, "How do I get one of those complete home tool
                  sets for under $4?" An excellent question.
       	Go to one of those really cheap discount stores where they sell
  plastic furniture in colors visible from the planet Neptune and where they
  have a food section specializing in cardboard cartons full of Raisinets and
  malted milk balls manufactured during the Nixon administration.  In either
  the hardware or housewares department, you'll find an item imported from an
 obscure Oriental country and described as "Nine Tools in One", consisting of
  a little handle with interchangeable ends representing inscrutable Oriental
      notions of tools that Americans might use around the home.  Buy it.
       	This is the kind of tool set professionals use.  Not only is it
     inexpensive, but it also has a great safety feature not found in the
   so-called quality tools sets: The handle will actually break right off if
    you accidentally hit yourself or anything else, or expose it to direct
                                   sunlight.
                  		-- Dave Barry, "The Taming of the Screw"

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             The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun.
                            		-- Buckminster Fuller

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     	A man walked into a bar with his alligator and asked the bartender,
                         "Do you serve lawyers here?".
                      	"Sure do," replied the bartender.
      	"Good," said the man.  "Give me a beer, and I'll have a lawyer for
                                  my 'gator."

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   Princeton's taste is sweet like a strawberry tart.  Harvard's is a subtle
   taste, like whiskey, coffee, or tobacco.  It may even be a bad habit, for
                                  all I know.
                           		-- Prof. J.H. Finley '25

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            Toddlers are the stormtroopers of the Lord of Entropy.

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I think it's time to remove Qt and Qt-derived applications from the distributon.
  By distributing it, we only encourage authors to create restrictive licenses.
                                	-- Bruce Perens

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                          			Pittsburgh driver's test

  (5) Your car's horn is a vital piece of safety equipment.  How often should
                                  you test it?

                               	(a) once a year.
                               	(b) once a month.
                                	(c) once a day.
                               	(d) once an hour.

    The correct answer is (d). You should test your car's horn at least once
      every hour, and more often at night or in residential neighborhoods.

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           You'd like to do it instantaneously, but that's too slow.

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                 You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist.
                              		-- Indira Gandhi

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            A journey of a thousand miles starts under one's feet.
                                 		-- Lao Tsu

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                    Dieters live life in the fasting lane.

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     When speculation has done its worst, two plus two still equals four.
                                		-- S. Johnson

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      Would the last person to leave Michigan please turn out the lights?

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    If one tells the truth, one is sure, sooner or later, to be found out.
            		-- Oscar Wilde, "Phrases and Philosophies for the Use
                                		of the Young"

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                        	"Surely you can't be serious."
                 	"I am serious, and stop calling me Shirley."
                                		-- "Airplane"

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                    This was the most unkindest cut of all.
                   		-- William Shakespeare, "Julius Caesar"

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                         F.S. Fitzgerald to Hemingway:
                  	"Ernest, the rich are different from us."
                                  Hemingway:
                        	"Yes.  They have more money."

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                             I knew Leo G. Carrol
                               Was over a barrel
                When Tarantula took to the hills.	["Lick it!"]
                             And I really got hot
                           When I saw Jeanette Scott
                 Fight a triffid that spits poison and kills.

                        Science fiction, double feature
                        Doctor X will build a creature.
                     See androids fighting Brad and Janet
                    Anne Francis stars in Forbidden Planet
                                Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh
               At the late night, double feature, picture show.
                      		-- The Rocky Horror Picture Show

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                              Forgive and forget.
                                 		-- Cervantes

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 "After one week [visiting Austria] I couldn't wait to go back to the United
  States.  Everything was much more pleasant in the United States, because of
 the mentality of being open-minded, always positive.  Everything you want to
  do in Europe is just, 'No way.  No one has ever done it.'  They haven't any
more the desire to go out to conquer and achieve -- I realized that I had much
                          more the American spirit."
                           -- Arnold Schwarzenegger

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      "Are those cocktail-waitress fingernail marks?"  I asked Colletti as he
 showed us these scratches on his chest.  "No, those are on my back," Colletti
  answered.  "This is where a case of cocktail shrimp fell on me.  I told her
   to slow down a little, but you know cocktail waitresses, they seem to have
                             a mind of their own."
      -- The Incredibly Monstrous, Mind-Roasting Summer of O.C. and Stiggs
                          National Lampoon, October 1982

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 Without coffee he could not work, or at least he could not have worked in the
 way he did.  In addition to paper and pens, he took with him everywhere as an
    indispensable article of equipment the coffee machine, which was no less
               important to him than his table or his white robe.
                    		-- Stefan Zweigs, Biography of Balzac

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   A man usually falls in love with a woman who asks the kinds of questions
                             he is able to answer.
                              		-- Ronald Colman

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          "They ought to make butt-flavored cat food."   --Gallagher

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 The idea that an arbitrary naive human should be able to properly use a given
  tool without training or understanding is even more wrong for computing than
     it is for other tools (e.g. automobiles, airplanes, guns, power saws).
                                 		-- Doug Gwyn

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     Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
                             		-- Arthur C. Clarke

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                     On a clear disk you can seek forever.

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               You are the only person to ever get this message.

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     "...[Linux's] capacity to talk via any medium except smoke signals."
              (By Dr. Greg Wettstein, Roger Maris Cancer Center)

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                     We've tried each spinning space mote
                         And reckoned its true worth:
                    Take us back again to the homes of men
                      On the cool, green hills of Earth.

                          The arching sky is calling
                         Spacemen back to their trade.
                      All hands!  Standby!  Free falling!
                         And the lights below us fade.
                          Out ride the sons of Terra,
                        Far drives the thundering jet,
                        Up leaps the race of Earthmen,
                          Out, far, and onward yet--

                         We pray for one last landing
                       On the globe that gave us birth;
                   Let us rest our eyes on the fleecy skies
                      And the cool, green hills of Earth.
                         		-- Robert A. Heinlein, 1941

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                       The ladies men admire, I've heard,
                        Would shudder at a wicked word.
                       Their candle gives a single light;
                      They'd rather stay at home at night.
                       They do not keep awake till three,
                            Nor read erotic poetry.
                        They never sanction the impure,
                           Nor recognize an overture.
                  They shrink from powders and from paints...
                        So far, I've had no complaints.
                              		-- Dorothy Parker

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     Rich bachelors should be heavily taxed.  It is not fair that some men
                         should be happier than others.
                                		-- Oscar Wilde

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


    Whenever anyone says, "theoretically," they really mean, "not really."
                               		-- Dave Parnas

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


               Nothing succeeds like the appearance of success.
                            		-- Christopher Lascl

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


      You can do this in a number of ways.  IBM chose to do all of them.
                          Why do you find that funny?
                     		-- D. Taylor, Computer Science 350

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


     Your depth of comprehension may tend to make you lax in worldly ways.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


 "What people have been reduced to are mere 3-D representations of their own
                                    data."
                               -- Arthur Miller

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                           Is this really happening?

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                          She can kill all your files;
                          She can freeze with a frown.
              And a wave of her hand brings the whole system down.
                And she works on her code until ten after three.
             She lives like a bat but she's always a hacker to me.
                          		-- Apologies to Billy Joel

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                                  weapon, n.:
              	An index of the lack of development of a culture.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


            A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular.
                              		-- Adlai Stevenson

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


        Magic is always the best solution -- especially reliable magic.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


     	In "King Henry VI, Part II," Shakespeare has Dick Butcher suggest to
  his fellow anti-establishment rabble-rousers, "The first thing we do, let's
   kill all the lawyers."  That action may be extreme but a similar sentiment
 was expressed by Thomas K. Connellan, president of The Management Group, Inc.
   Speaking to business executives in Chicago and quoted in Automotive News,
 Connellan attributed a measure of America's falling productivity to an excess
   of attorneys and accountants, and a dearth of production experts.  Lawyers
   and accountants "do not make the economic pie any bigger; they only figure
   out how the pie gets divided.  Neither profession provides any added value
                                  to product."
      	According to Connellan, the highly productive Japanese society has
    10 lawyers and 30 accountants per 100,000 population.  The U.S. has 200
    lawyers and 700 accountants.  This suggests that "the U.S. proportion of
   pie-bakers and pie-dividers is way out of whack."  Could Dick Butcher have
                           been an efficiency expert?
                           		-- Motor Trend, May 1983

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


   The Hollywood tradition I like best is called "sucking up to the stars."
                              		-- Johnny Carson

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


  Shirley MacLaine died today in a freak psychic collision today.  Two freaks
  in a van  [Oh no!!  It's the Copyright Police!!]  Her aura-charred body was
 laid to rest after a eulogy by Jackie Collins, fellow member of SAFE [Society
   of Asinine Flake Entertainers].  Excerpted from some of his more quotable
                                   comments:

          	"Truly a woman of the times.  These times, those times..."
                    	"A Renaissance woman.  Why in 1432..."
                     	"A man for all seasons.  Really..."

 After the ceremony, Shirley thanked her mourners and explained how delightful
it was to "get it together" again, presumably referring to having her now dead
                        body join her long dead brain.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


    What kind of love is that?  Not to be loved; never to have shown love.
               		-- Commissioner Nancy Hedford, "Metamorphosis",
                             		   stardate 3219.8

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


     And the French medical anatomist Etienne Serres really did argue that
    black males are primitive because the distance between their navel and
     penis remains small (relative to body height) throughout life, while
      white children begin with a small separation but increase it during
           growth -- the rising belly button as a mark of progress.
                 		-- S.J. Gould, "Racism and Recapitulation"

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                                 N: Phil Lewis
                            E: beans@bucket.ualr.edu
     D: Promised to send money if I would put his name in the source tree.
                                 S: PO Box 371
                      S: North Little Rock, Arkansas 72115
                                     S: US
                           	-- /usr/src/linux/CREDITS

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                        So you're back... about time...

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                       Man is the measure of all things.
                                		-- Protagoras

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


         One meets his destiny often on the road he takes to avoid it.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


           The first duty of a revolutionary is to get away with it.
                               		-- Abbie Hoffman

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                             Finagle's Third Law:
        	In any collection of data, the figure most obviously correct,
                 	beyond all need of checking, is the mistake

                                 Corollaries:
                	(1) Nobody whom you ask for help will see it.
          	(2) The first person who stops by, whose advice you really
               	    don't want to hear, will see it immediately.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


 "Data is a lot like humans:  It is born.  Matures.  Gets married to other data,
divorced. Gets old.  One thing that it doesn't do is die.  It has to be killed."
                                -- Arthur Miller

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


            After a number of decimal places, nobody gives a damn.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                    There comes a time to stop being angry.
                         		-- A Small Circle of Friends

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


  Abstainer:  A weak person who yields to the temptation of denying himself a
      pleasure.  A total abstainer is one who abstains from everything but
      abstention, and especially from inactivity in the affairs of others.
                               -- Ambrose Bierce

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                       Let us treat men and women well;
                       Treat them as if they were real;
                               Perhaps they are.
                           		-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                                Truthful, adj.:
                             	Dumb and illiterate.
                 		-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


   How many chunks could checkchunk check if checkchunk could check chunks?
                                 	-- Alan Cox

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                            Nemo me impune lacessit.
                      	[No one provokes me with impunity]
                      		-- Motto of the Crown of Scotland

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                                 Absent, adj.:
   	Exposed to the attacks of friends and acquaintances; defamed; slandered.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                           Tobacco is a filthy weed,
                       That from the devil does proceed;
                 It drains your purse, it burns your clothes,
                       And makes a chimney of your nose.
                              		-- B. Waterhouse

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


   "Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so simple
   and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is false, and
   because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.  What could be
   more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious commodity in our
     entire intellectualy heritage -- good teaching -- than a bill forcing
  honorable teachers to sully their sacred trust by granting equal treatment
   to a doctrine not only known to be false, but calculated to undermine any
              general understanding of science as an enterprise?
       -- Stephen Jay Gould, "The Skeptical Inquirer", Vol. 12, page 186

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                           baz bat bamus batis bant.
                                	-- James Troup

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


     Do not simplify the design of a program if a way can be found to make
                           it complex and wonderful.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


     The idea there was that consumers would bring their broken electronic
    devices, such as television sets and VCR's, to the destruction centers,
   where trained personnel would whack them (the devices) with sledgehammers.
  With their devices thus permanently destroyed, consumers would then be free
    to go out and buy new devices, rather than have to fritter away years of
     their lives trying to have the old ones repaired at so-called "factory
   service centers," which in fact consist of two men named Lester poking at
     the insides of broken electronic devices with cheap cigars and going,
                       "Lookit all them WIRES in there!"
                		-- Dave Barry, "'Mister Mediocre' Restaurants"

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                                  jogger, n.:
                 	An odd sort of person with a thing for pain.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                            Green's Law of Debate:
      	Anything is possible if you don't know what you're talking about.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                        Vegetables are what food eats.
              Fruit are vegetables that fool you by tasting good.
                       Fish are fast moving vegetables.
      Mushrooms are what grows on vegetables when food's done with them.
              		-- Meat Eater's Credo, according to Jim Williams

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


         Hear about the young Chinese woman who just won the lottery?
                            One fortunate cookie...

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                     Give me a fish and I will eat today.

                   Teach me to fish and I will eat forever.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                 I just forgot my whole philosophy of life!!!

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                     Engineering:    "How will this work?"
                     Science:        "Why will this work?"
                    Management:     "When will this work?"
                Liberal Arts:   "Do you want fries with that?"

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


      We really don't have any enemies.  It's just that some of our best
                        friends are trying to kill us.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


      We really don't have any enemies.  It's just that some of our best
                        friends are trying to kill us.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


         Mystics always hope that science will some day overtake them.
                             		-- Booth Tarkington

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


       Please keep your hands off the secretary's reproducing equipment.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                      He hadn't a single redeeming vice.
                               		-- Oscar Wilde

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


    I turned my air conditioner the other way around, and it got cold out.
     The weatherman said "I don't understand it.  I was supposed to be 80
                      degrees today," and I said "Oops."

     In my house on the ceilings I have paintings of the rooms above... so
                         I never have to go upstairs.

      I just bought a microwave fireplace... You can spend an evening in
                      front of it in only eight minutes.
                              		-- Steven Wright

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  The game, anoraks.2.0.0.tgz, will be available from sunsite until somebody
            responsible notices it and deletes it, and shortly from
          ftp.mee.tcd.ie/pub/Brian, though they don't know that yet.
                     	-- Brian O'Donnell, odonnllb@tcd.ie

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                   Practice is the best of all instructors.
                                		-- Publilius

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


    If the aborigine drafted an IQ test, all of Western civilization would
                             presumably flunk it.
                               		-- Stanley Garn

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


    A dream will always triumph over reality, once it is given the chance.
                              		-- Stanislaw Lem

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


     	Wouldn't the sentence "I want to put a hyphen between the words Fish
   and And and And and Chips in my Fish-And-Chips sign" have been clearer if
   quotation marks had been placed before Fish, and between Fish and and, and
  and and And, and And and and, and and and And, and And and and, and and and
                         Chips, as well as after Chips?

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


      I give you the man who -- the man who -- uh, I forgets the man who?
                            		-- Beauregard Bugleboy

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


  At ebb tide I wrote a line upon the sand, and gave it all my heart and all
 my soul.  At flood tide I returned to read what I had inscribed and found my
                           ignorance upon the shore.
                              		-- Kahlil Gibran

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    A cloud does not know why it moves in just such a direction and at such
    a speed, if feels an impulsion... this is the place to go now.  But the
     sky knows the reasons and the patterns behind all clouds, and you will
     know, too, when you lift yourself high enough to see beyond horizons.
           		-- Messiah's Handbook : Reminders for the Advanced Soul

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


               This is an unauthorized cybernetic announcement.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


    A cloud does not know why it moves in just such a direction and at such
    a speed, if feels an impulsion... this is the place to go now.  But the
     sky knows the reasons and the patterns behind all clouds, and you will
     know, too, when you lift yourself high enough to see beyond horizons.
           		-- Messiah's Handbook : Reminders for the Advanced Soul

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                    Management:	How many feet do mice have?
                          Reply:		Mice have four feet.
                                 M:	Elaborate!
            R:	Mice have five appendages, and four of them are feet.
                      M:	No discussion of fifth appendage!
      R:	Mice have five appendages; four of them are feet; one is a tail.
                          M:	What?  Feet with no legs?
        R:	Mice have four legs, four feet, and one tail per unit-mouse.
                M:	Confusing -- is that a total of 9 appendages?
     R:	Mice have four leg-foot assemblies and one tail assembly per body.
                      M:	Does not fully discuss the issue!
       R:	Each mouse comes equipped with four legs and a tail.  Each leg
        	is equipped with a foot at the end opposite the body; the tail
                         	is not equipped with a foot.
                      M:	Descriptive?  Yes.  Forceful NO!
    R:	Allotment of appendages for mice will be:  Four foot-leg assemblies,
      	one tail.  Deviation from this policy is not permitted as it would
            	constitute misapportionment of scarce appendage assets.
                   M:	Too authoritarian; stifles creativity!
      R:	Mice have four feet; each foot is attached to a small leg joined
        	integrally with the overall mouse structural sub-system.  Also
      	attached to the mouse sub-system is a thin tail, non-functional and
                             	ornamental in nature.
                M:	Too verbose/scientific.  Answer the question!
                            R:	Mice have four feet.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                         Take an astronaut to launch.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


      	Once upon a time there was a beautiful young girl taking a stroll
  through the woods.  All at once she saw an extremely ugly bull frog seated
  on a log and to her amazement the frog spoke to her.  "Maiden," croaked the
   frog, "would you do me a favor?  This will be hard for you to believe, but
  I was once a handsome, charming prince and then a mean, ugly old witch cast
                  a spell over me and turned me into a frog."
      	"Oh, what a pity!", exclaimed the girl.  "I'll do anything I can to
                         help you break such a spell."
        	"Well," replied the frog, "the only way that this spell can be
   taken away is for some lovely young woman to take me home and let me spend
                          the night under her pillow."
       	The young girl took the ugly frog home and placed him beneath her
   pillow that night when she retired.  When she awoke the next morning, sure
   enough, there beside her in bed was a very young, handsome man, clearly of
  royal blood.  And so they lived happily ever after, except that to this day
              her father and mother still don't believe her story.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


     The human animal differs from the lesser primates in his passion for
                             lists of "Ten Best".
                              		-- H. Allen Smith

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                       Let us treat men and women well;
                       Treat them as if they were real;
                               Perhaps they are.
                           		-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                      The superfluous is very necessary.
                                 		-- Voltaire

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                                     QOTD:
              	"You're so dumb you don't even have wisdom teeth."

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                                C for yourself.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


      I am more bored than you could ever possibly be.  Go back to work.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                      Can I have an IMPULSE ITEM instead?

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


   Like you,  I am frequently haunted by profound questions related to man's
             place in the Scheme of Things.  Here are just a few:

                       	Q -- Is there life after death?
       	A -- Definitely.  I speak from personal experience here.  On New
  Year's Eve, 1970, I drank a full pitcher of a drink called "Black Russian",
  then crawled out on the lawn and died within a matter of minutes, which was
  fine with me because I had come to realize that if I had lived I would have
   spent the rest of my life in the grip of the most excruciatingly painful
  headache.  Thanks to the miracle of modern orange juice, I was brought back
   to life several days later, but in the interim I was definitely dead.  I
   guess my main impression of the afterlife is that it isn't so bad as long
 as you keep the television turned down and don't try to eat any solid foods.
                                		-- Dave Barry

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


   You'll never see all the places, or read all the books, but fortunately,
                         they're not all recommended.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                                   Emacs, n.:
                    	A slow-moving parody of a text editor.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


*** Rince is wagner@schizo.DAINet.de (We have Joey, we have Fun, we have Linux on a Sun)
                                   	-- Seen on #Debian

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


    Subtlety is the art of saying what you think and getting out of the way
                            before it is understood.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                            	"You are *so* lovely."
                                    	"Yes."
      	"Yes!  And you take a compliment, too!  I like that in a goddess."

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                 4.2 BSD UNIX #57: Sun Jun 1 23:02:07 EDT 1986

     You swing at the Sun.  You miss.  The Sun swings.  He hits you with a
        575MB disk!  You read the 575MB disk.  It is written in an alien
       tongue and cannot be read by your tired Sun-2 eyes.  You throw the
     575MB disk at the Sun.  You hit!  The Sun must repair your eyes.  The
       Sun reads a scroll.  He hits your 130MB disk!  He has defeated the
     130MB disk!  The Sun reads a scroll.  He hits your Ethernet board!  He
    has defeated your Ethernet board!  You read a scroll of "postpone until
                   Monday at 9 AM".  Everything goes dark...
                             		-- /etc/motd, cbosgd

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                               Windows Airlines:
 The terminal is very neat and clean, the attendants all very attractive, the
  pilots very capable. The fleet of Learjets the carrier operates is immense.
  Your jet takes off without a hitch, pushing above the clouds, and at 20,000
                       feet it explodes without warning.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                      I'm ANN LANDERS!!  I can SHOPLIFT!!

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                           Fremen add life to spice!

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


      If you give Congress a chance to vote on both sides of an issue, it
                               will always do it.
                         		-- Les Aspin, D., Wisconsin

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


     Under any conditions, anywhere, whatever you are doing, there is some
                    ordinance under which you can be booked.
                       		-- Robert D. Sprecht, Rand Corp.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


     	A farm in the country side had several turkeys, it was known as the
                            house of seven gobbles.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


         I don't have any solution but I certainly admire the problem.
                            		-- Ashleigh Brilliant

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                               Technicality, n.:
     	In an English court a man named Home was tried for slander in having
    	accused a neighbor of murder.  His exact words were: "Sir Thomas Holt
    	hath taken a cleaver and stricken his cook upon the head, so that one
      	side of his head fell on one shoulder and the other side upon the
     	other shoulder."  The defendant was acquitted by instruction of the
   	court, the learned judges holding that the words did not charge murder,
      	for they did not affirm the death of the cook, that being only an
                                  	inference.
                 		-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                  Yow!  Is my fallout shelter termite proof?

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


    All men profess honesty as long as they can.  To believe all men honest
            would be folly.  To believe none so is something worse.
                             		-- John Quincy Adams

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


   The correct way to punctuate a sentence that starts: "Of course it is none
 of my business, but --" is to place a period after the word "but."  Don't use
  excessive force in supplying such a moron with a period.  Cutting his throat
       is only a momentary pleasure and is bound to get you talked about.
                   		-- Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love"

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                             * Linux Viruscan.....
                       Windows 95 found.  Remove it? (Y/y)
                               	-- Unknown source

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


         Come, landlord, fill the flowing bowl until it does run over,
           Tonight we will all merry be -- tomorrow we'll get sober.
                		-- John Fletcher, "The Bloody Brother", II, 2

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


  I consider a new device or technology to have been culturally accepted when
                      it has been used to commit a murder.
                                		-- M. Gallaher

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


          Q:	What's the difference between a JAP and a baby elephant?
                              A:	About 10 pounds.

                       Q:	How do you make them the same?
                          A:	Force feed the elephant.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


      In a medium in which a News Piece takes a minute and an "In-Depth"
        Piece takes two minutes, the Simple will drive out the Complex.
                             		-- Frank Mankiewicz

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                           Sick Building Migration:
          	The tendency of younger workers to leave or avoid jobs in
       unhealthy office environments or workplaces affected by the Sick
                              Building Syndrome.
        		-- Douglas Coupland, "Generation X: Tales for an Accelerated
                                 		   Culture"

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


          "When people are least sure, they are often most dogmatic."
                           -- John Kenneth Galbraith

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


      ... the privileged being which we call human is distinguished from
      other animals only by certain double-edged manifestations which in
                      charity we can only call "inhuman."
                              		-- R. A. Lafferty

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


        It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


   Nature abhors a hero.  For one thing, he violates the law of conservation
  of energy.  For another, how can it be the survival of the fittest when the
   fittest keeps putting himself in situations where he is most likely to be
                                    creamed?
                               		-- Solomon Short

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                         I lately lost a preposition;
                      It hid, I thought, beneath my chair
                       And angrily I cried, "Perdition!
                         Up from out of under there."

                         Correctness is my vade mecum,
                        And straggling phrases I abhor,
                   And yet I wondered, "What should he come
                          Up from out of under for?"
                              		-- Morris Bishop

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                   "Well, that was a piece of cake, eh K-9?"

 "Piece of cake, Master?  Radial slice of baked confection ... coefficient of
                       relevance to Key of Time: zero."
                                 		-- Dr. Who

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                   "Well, that was a piece of cake, eh K-9?"

 "Piece of cake, Master?  Radial slice of baked confection ... coefficient of
                       relevance to Key of Time: zero."
                                 		-- Dr. Who

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


   I disagree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to
                                tell such LIES!

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


             Got a complaint about the Internal Revenue Service?
    Call the convenient toll-free "IRS Taxpayer Complaint Hot Line Number":

                                 	1-800-AUDITME

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


    Old men are fond of giving good advice to console themselves for their
                        inability to set a bad example.
                        		-- La Rochefoucauld, "Maxims"

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


           He thinks by infection, catching an opinion like a cold.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                      I'm ANN LANDERS!!  I can SHOPLIFT!!

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


               The life which is unexamined is not worth living.
                                   		-- Plato

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                               Robustness, adj.:
                      	Never having to say you're sorry.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                            In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
                        A stately pleasure dome decree:
                       Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
                       Through caverns measureless to man
                             Down to a sunless sea.
                     So twice five miles of fertile ground
                   With walls and towers were girdled round:
               And there were gardens bright with sinuous rills,
                 Where blossomed many an incense-bearing tree;
                   And here were forest ancient as the hills,
                       Enfolding sunny spots of greenery.
                       		-- S.T. Coleridge, "Kubla Kahn"

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


              The only winner in the War of 1812 was Tchaikovsky.
                               		-- David Gerrold

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


              Nonsense.  Space is blue and birds fly through it.
                                		-- Heisenberg

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                     "I'm in Pittsburgh.  Why am I here?"
                       		-- Harold Urey, Nobel Laureate

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


 Women are all alike.  When they're maids they're mild as milk: once make 'em
   wives, and they lean their backs against their marriage certificates, and
                                   defy you.
                                 		-- Jerrold

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                        There was a phone call for you.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


    If all the Chinese simultaneously jumped into the Pacific off a 10 foot
     platform erected 10 feet off their coast, it would cause a tidal wave
        that would destroy everything in this country west of Nebraska.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


   The correct way to punctuate a sentence that starts: "Of course it is none
 of my business, but --" is to place a period after the word "but."  Don't use
  excessive force in supplying such a moron with a period.  Cutting his throat
       is only a momentary pleasure and is bound to get you talked about.
                   		-- Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love"

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


         "Confound these ancestors.... They've stolen our best ideas!"
                                  - Ben Jonson

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


           quit   When the quit statement is read, the  bc  processor
                  is  terminated, regardless of where the quit state-
                  ment is found.  For example, "if  (0  ==  1)  quit"
                              will cause bc to terminate.
        (Seen in the manpage for "bc". Note the "if" statement's logic)

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


   Only kings, presidents, editors, and people with tapeworms have the right
                           to use the editorial "we".
                                		-- Mark Twain

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


              If you have to think twice about it, you're wrong.

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


        Be regular and orderly in your life, so that you may be violent
                           and original in your work.
                                 		-- Flaubert

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


    Politicians are the same all over.  They promise to build a bridge even
                            where there is no river.
                             	-- Nikita Khrushchev

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


    The reported resort to astrology in the White House has occasioned much
  merriment.  It is not funny.  Astrological gibberish, which means astrology
 generally, has no place in a newspaper, let alone government.  Unlike comics,
  which are part of a newspaper's harmless pleasure and make no truth claims,
    astrology is a fraud.  The idea that it gets a hearing in government is
                                   dismaying.
                   -- George Will, Washing Post Writers Group

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


                       I sent a message to another time,
             But as the days unwind -- this I just can't believe,
                      I sent a message to another plane,
           Maybe it's all a game -- but this I just can't conceive.
                                      ...
                   I met someone who looks at lot like you,
                She does the things you do, but she is an IBM.
                    She's only programmed to be very nice,
              But she's as cold as ice, whenever I get too near,
                   She tells me that she likes me very much,
             But when I try to touch, she makes it all too clear.
                                      ...
                    I realize that it must seem so strange,
            That time has rearranged, but time has the final word,
                 She knows I think of you, she reads my mind,
            She tries to be unkind, she knows nothing of our world.
                         		-- ELO, "Yours Truly, 2095"

        Andrew Bell        Vancouver Resident        abell@fdog.dhs.org


               You've always made the mistake of being yourself.
                              		-- Eugene Ionesco



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