Re: hard disk drive
none of the hard drive options work.... hdc, hdd ...etc...
i have another question since we are on this .....
this might make things a little bit more complex, as it is (if anyone has
been following the threads of emails I have beensending would be confused
as to what I am trying to achieve!!)
i cant help smiling at the whole interest i have created(have I??) :)
I WILL be using the dock'c SCSI port to connect to a SCSI CD-ROM drive....
and since you mention the change in device names for devices in the dock
.... what MIGHT this device be recognised as by the kernel?? hd* or sd*
????
any clues???
and you can go ahead and publish this stuff on the gazette as long as you
trim off personal stuff, which i have a bad habit of writing in my emails
:), and other things that might not make a thread in the chain.
thanks,
Praveen Kamath
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Heather wrote:
> > when the computer boots up I dont see the new hard-disk drive. i am
> > assuming the same as you too, i.e. fdisk/mkfs needs disk geometry(number
> > of blocks)
> >
> > but i haven't really had the time to look at the hard-disk and calculate
> > the number of blocks from the information on the hard-disk drive. but i
> > will definitely try it out.
> >
> > I am not sure as you put it. "if fdisk is properly seeing /dev/hdb" ...
> > but the other disks like /dev/hdc, hdd etc... give a disk not found error.
> >
> > when i do a more on other drives, like /dev/hdb, hdc ..etc
> > i get the same error device not found ... (because there are no devices
> > attached, which is natural)
> > (more /dev/hdc for example)
> >
> > BUT for more /dev/hdb I get the error device not configured.....
>
> Hmm, any given IDE chain can hold two things on it. On a laptop
> /dev/hda is invariably the hard disk deep inside. The /dev/hdb is usually
> wasted - though sometimes it ends up able to be used for an ATAPI floppy.
>
> In other words it means "yes, I have a driver loaded for that IDE chain,
> but there's nothing on the other end; that device out there doesn't want to
> talk."
>
> Logically a dock would normally get its own, additional chain, and that's
> why mounted CDs from a dock are usually /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd. The same should
> follow for IDE disks on a dock.
>
> I could potentially see a dock that only has room for one IDE device, hooking
> into the laptop circuitry such that the dock is /dev/hdb. In which case,
> you should get good response from /dev/hdb if-and-only-if the dock is really
> solidly connected, and the drive docked there, also really solidly connected
> and powered. (you said it's a desktop class drive, it does have one of those
> huge four prong power thingies, right? It needs juice.) What my sysadmin
> colleagues would call an "ISO layer 1 problem" - check the physical layer...
>
> > any clues on this one??
> >
> > And I have sent an email to the Star :)
> > thanks,
> > Praveen
>
> And I've some guesses but nothing sure. Hey, everyone, this is tricky
> enough, has anyone any objections if I publish this thread in the Linux
> Gazette once we solve it for him?
>
> * Heather Stern * star@ many places... sr.tech editor, Linux Gazette
>
> > On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 JParker@coinstar.com wrote:
> >
> > > G'Day !
> > >
> > > I'm interested in what happened in your fdisk session. Where you able to
> > > create partitions ? Could you "save" your work on the partition table ?
> > >
> > > "Device not configured" is also curious ... I wonder if you need to
> > > specify the disk geometry to lilo (I'm guessing here) ???? I would look
> > > at the problem like it was a partition table problem. You did something
> > > right if fdisk can see it.
> > >
> > > I'm not real familiar with laptops ... I'd be more help on a
> > > desktop/server system. Perhaps someone like Heather would be able to help
> > > you more.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Jim Parker
> > >
> > > Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death .... It is far more
> > > important than that !!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kamath <kamath@cs.odu.edu>
> > > 01/05/01 11:36 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > To: JParker@coinstar.com
> > > cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
> > > Subject: Re: hard disk drive
> > >
> > > thanks for the response.
> > >
> > > I tried mounting the disk as hdb, hdb1 etc... but it wouldn't mount. I get
> > > the error device not configured.
> > > I tried making a filesystem too, but even that gives the same error as
> > > device not configured.
> > > I tried the hard0drive jumper settings as a primary-master as well as the
> > > primary slave.
> > > The disk is an enhanced IDE drive. are there any special drivers needed
> > > for accessing EIDE drives in linux....??
> > > and if so where can i get these drivers?
> > >
> > > in windows I am not sure how the whole set-up works.... I have contacted
> > > compaq support but there arent too very hepl ful. they say the model is
> > > out-dated (Compaq LTE Elite, and the dock is compaq Smartstation). and I
> > > am not sure of the interface(what sort?? looks like SCSI to me or maybe
> > > PCMCIA type III) the computer uses to attach to the docking bay.
> > >
> > >
> > > any help will be appreciated.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > praveen kamath
> > >
> > > On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 JParker@coinstar.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > G'Day !
> > > >
> > > > Are you saying that fdisk recognizes your new hd as /dev/hdb, but you
> > > can
> > > > not mount it ?
> > > >
> > > > Once in fdisk ... Did you partition the drive ? Did you create a
> > > > filesystem on those new partitions ? Did you use the mount command to
> > > > access the drive ("mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1" as root) ?
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know how to do it in windows (is it a secondary slave, or
> > > > maybe a secondary master ? ), it should be similar, as far as the
> > > hardware
> > > > is concerned.
> > > >
> > > > cheers,
> > > > Jim Parker
> > > >
> > > > Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death .... It is far more
> > > > important than that !!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kamath <kamath@cs.odu.edu>
> > > > 01/05/01 02:43 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
> > > > cc:
> > > > Subject: hard disk drive
> > > >
> > > > Hello all--
> > > >
> > > > I need some help from someone who has used docking stations. I have a
> > > > Compaq LTE Elite laptop with the Compaq smart-station. I have added an
> > > > additional hard-disk to the docking station, and would like to access
> > > this
> > > > additional hard-disk via the docking station.
> > > >
> > > > The additional Hard disk is desk-top EIDE hard-drive and I tried
> > > > configuring it as the Primary master as well as the Slave but I get the
> > > > message "unable to open device" when I try to do a fdisk on the new
> > > disk,
> > > > it appears the diskette is recognised as /dev/hdb
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone help me!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Praveen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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