Re: hard disk drive
> when the computer boots up I dont see the new hard-disk drive. i am
> assuming the same as you too, i.e. fdisk/mkfs needs disk geometry(number
> of blocks)
>
> but i haven't really had the time to look at the hard-disk and calculate
> the number of blocks from the information on the hard-disk drive. but i
> will definitely try it out.
>
> I am not sure as you put it. "if fdisk is properly seeing /dev/hdb" ...
> but the other disks like /dev/hdc, hdd etc... give a disk not found error.
>
> when i do a more on other drives, like /dev/hdb, hdc ..etc
> i get the same error device not found ... (because there are no devices
> attached, which is natural)
> (more /dev/hdc for example)
>
> BUT for more /dev/hdb I get the error device not configured.....
Hmm, any given IDE chain can hold two things on it. On a laptop
/dev/hda is invariably the hard disk deep inside. The /dev/hdb is usually
wasted - though sometimes it ends up able to be used for an ATAPI floppy.
In other words it means "yes, I have a driver loaded for that IDE chain,
but there's nothing on the other end; that device out there doesn't want to
talk."
Logically a dock would normally get its own, additional chain, and that's
why mounted CDs from a dock are usually /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd. The same should
follow for IDE disks on a dock.
I could potentially see a dock that only has room for one IDE device, hooking
into the laptop circuitry such that the dock is /dev/hdb. In which case,
you should get good response from /dev/hdb if-and-only-if the dock is really
solidly connected, and the drive docked there, also really solidly connected
and powered. (you said it's a desktop class drive, it does have one of those
huge four prong power thingies, right? It needs juice.) What my sysadmin
colleagues would call an "ISO layer 1 problem" - check the physical layer...
> any clues on this one??
>
> And I have sent an email to the Star :)
> thanks,
> Praveen
And I've some guesses but nothing sure. Hey, everyone, this is tricky
enough, has anyone any objections if I publish this thread in the Linux
Gazette once we solve it for him?
* Heather Stern * star@ many places... sr.tech editor, Linux Gazette
> On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 JParker@coinstar.com wrote:
>
> > G'Day !
> >
> > I'm interested in what happened in your fdisk session. Where you able to
> > create partitions ? Could you "save" your work on the partition table ?
> >
> > "Device not configured" is also curious ... I wonder if you need to
> > specify the disk geometry to lilo (I'm guessing here) ???? I would look
> > at the problem like it was a partition table problem. You did something
> > right if fdisk can see it.
> >
> > I'm not real familiar with laptops ... I'd be more help on a
> > desktop/server system. Perhaps someone like Heather would be able to help
> > you more.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Jim Parker
> >
> > Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death .... It is far more
> > important than that !!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kamath <kamath@cs.odu.edu>
> > 01/05/01 11:36 AM
> >
> >
> > To: JParker@coinstar.com
> > cc: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: hard disk drive
> >
> > thanks for the response.
> >
> > I tried mounting the disk as hdb, hdb1 etc... but it wouldn't mount. I get
> > the error device not configured.
> > I tried making a filesystem too, but even that gives the same error as
> > device not configured.
> > I tried the hard0drive jumper settings as a primary-master as well as the
> > primary slave.
> > The disk is an enhanced IDE drive. are there any special drivers needed
> > for accessing EIDE drives in linux....??
> > and if so where can i get these drivers?
> >
> > in windows I am not sure how the whole set-up works.... I have contacted
> > compaq support but there arent too very hepl ful. they say the model is
> > out-dated (Compaq LTE Elite, and the dock is compaq Smartstation). and I
> > am not sure of the interface(what sort?? looks like SCSI to me or maybe
> > PCMCIA type III) the computer uses to attach to the docking bay.
> >
> >
> > any help will be appreciated.
> >
> > thanks,
> > praveen kamath
> >
> > On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 JParker@coinstar.com wrote:
> >
> > > G'Day !
> > >
> > > Are you saying that fdisk recognizes your new hd as /dev/hdb, but you
> > can
> > > not mount it ?
> > >
> > > Once in fdisk ... Did you partition the drive ? Did you create a
> > > filesystem on those new partitions ? Did you use the mount command to
> > > access the drive ("mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1" as root) ?
> > >
> > > Does anyone know how to do it in windows (is it a secondary slave, or
> > > maybe a secondary master ? ), it should be similar, as far as the
> > hardware
> > > is concerned.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Jim Parker
> > >
> > > Sailboat racing is not a matter of life and death .... It is far more
> > > important than that !!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kamath <kamath@cs.odu.edu>
> > > 01/05/01 02:43 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
> > > cc:
> > > Subject: hard disk drive
> > >
> > > Hello all--
> > >
> > > I need some help from someone who has used docking stations. I have a
> > > Compaq LTE Elite laptop with the Compaq smart-station. I have added an
> > > additional hard-disk to the docking station, and would like to access
> > this
> > > additional hard-disk via the docking station.
> > >
> > > The additional Hard disk is desk-top EIDE hard-drive and I tried
> > > configuring it as the Primary master as well as the Slave but I get the
> > > message "unable to open device" when I try to do a fdisk on the new
> > disk,
> > > it appears the diskette is recognised as /dev/hdb
> > >
> > > Can anyone help me!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Praveen
> > >
> > >
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