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Re: Bug#428195: krb5: [debconf_rewrite] Debconf templates review



On (11/06/07 09:11), Russ Allbery wrote:
> Reading them all over instead of reading the diff turned up one more
> clarification.  My apologies for not catching this the first time.
> 
> (Was the conclusion to use single quotes?  I should probably join
> debian-l10n-english in my copious free time.)

There was no conclusion. If someone wanted to make a statement that only
one should be used and pick one then we could follow it, but maybe we
should stick with a more organic approach, where we just use whatever
comes out at the end of the maintainer->reviewers->maintainer interaction.

You would be very welcome to join in with the list. Now we have got
going it seems to be clear that English as a first language is far from
necessary. Christian does large parts of the rewrites himself, and
Justin and MJ do a good job of picking up on the language issues.

> > Template: krb5-admin-server/newrealm
> > Type: note
> Oh, and while we're reviewing this -- is this note debconf note abuse?  I
> didn't remove it the last time I changed the templates, but I wasn't
> sure.

Well, Christian is the one to ask, but I believe it might be.

>     krb524d is a daemon that converts Kerberos V5 tickets into Kerberos V4
>     tickets for the krb524init program and other programs that obtain
>     Kerberos V4 tickets for compatibility with old applications.
> 
> I don't want to give the impression that krb524d is only used if you're
> running krb524init, since the latter is not one of the more common ways of
> getting Kerberos V4 tickets.  Most users actually use krb524d because of
> old versions of aklog, although the version in Debian hasn't required this
> for quite some time.  The Red Hat Kerberos PAM module is another likely
> use.
> 

Your new wording is fine. However can I suggest

   krb524d is a daemon that converts Kerberos V5 tickets into Kerberos V4
   tickets for programs, such as krb524init, that obtain Kerberos V4 tickets
   for compatibility with old applications.

I hope this reads a little better, while not suggesting that krb524init
is the only user.

> Also, I'm not sure what standard you've been following for this with other
> templates, but I've always been taught it's conventional to keep Unix
> program names in lowercase at the start of a sentence, since the case
> difference implies a different program.

That seems like a good convention to me, and one that I use. However it
does push technical writing conventions up against those of more
traditional writing. Much like the "V5" vs. "v5" issue, which I did not
speak up on before, but I would like to put a vote in for the latter if
it is not too late.

Thanks,

James

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