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Re: Θέμα: Re: Knoppix 6 ?



On Tuesday 30 May 2006 22:38, Manolis Mathioudakis wrote:
> About the knoppix installer and knoppix AFTER installation: I know that you
> always say that knoppix is a live cd. But how much Debian is knoppix after
> installation? Kano and his kanotix is "selling" itself as pure debian sid 
> after installation. What about knoppix? What are the differences after
> knoppix is installed if you compare it to an normal debian installation.
> For one I know that knoppix is using kudzu instead of discover and knoppix
> uses knoppix-hd-autoconfig that debian obversely does not use. Also there
> will be an official debian live cd out soon. What do you think about that?
> Why couldn't they just use knoppix instead?
> It surely would be nice if knoppix could be 100% debian after install.

The more "elitist" or "purists" in the Debian community will say no-no-no, 
slap your hand, flame your posts, etc.

I guess that after the HD installation, numerous upgrades off Sid, etc., what 
remains Knoppix, Kanotix, etc., is the bootup scripts sequence. The hardware 
detection and near complete auto-setup is what makes Knoppix great and what 
got me started quite painlessly in Linux. 

(I had to slug it out with alsa because of my specific old hardware and my 
non-pp0ea ADSL but with help from Debian and Knoppix folks, got it all going. 
The CD is still around if I foul up and has been made good use of! Now I have 
a DVD drive so I ought to get the latest and greatest.)

And as one upgrades, one makes choices. My good old Knoppix 3.3 had a 
"static" /dev with zillions of nodes, most of which should probably be 
eliminated. I never had devfs which Debian has now chucked. I never installed 
udev because too many folks are still having too many problems with it. Works 
quite fine without it. Most knoppix-specific packages were removed in the 
normal upgrade process. A few remain, unused.

Is it Debian!!!! Close enough, I suppose, but do not quote me. It'll be all 
over Debian-user :-)



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