Re: [D-I] Supporting 2.6.14 kernels in base-installer
On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 10:59:10PM +0100, Maximilian Attems wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 10:34:27PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 09:23:14PM +0100, Maximilian Attems wrote:
> > > On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 08:01:38PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 12:32:29PM -0500, Jeff Bailey wrote:
> > > > > On dim, 2005-11-13 at 12:46 +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > > > > > I think it is possible at least for initramfs-tools to run without sysfs
> > > > > > on the building system.
> > > > >
> > > > > Right. The caveat to this is "dep" mode. The default mode for
> > > > > initramfs-tools is to include all of the modules that you're likely
> > > > > interested in booting with in the initramfs and detecting which ones to
> > > > > use at boot time. If you ask it to detect which modules are needed, it
> > > > > needs a valid sysfs tree to scan (although it is resiliant in that case
> > > > > against module name changes)
> > > >
> > > > Ah, interesting.
> > > >
> > > > Notice that in some case, the "most" mode will produce to huge initrd that are
> > > > possibly not supported by the kernel/bootloader/firmware. This may be the case
> > > > on some prep boxes on powerpc at least.
> > >
> > > even ozlabs has no prep boxes around.
> > > (that means no upstream support in the kernel afaik)
> > > are there any user evidence?
> >
> > Sure, i have one, p2mate has one, Attilio has one, i have knowledge of at least 10 persons
> > asking about prep support on the debian-powerpc mailing lists this past year,
> > and debian works flawlessly on those, they are a supported model.
>
> well ok so you may need to invest some time to get them up again.
> in 2.6.15-rc1 PREP doesn't compile
> -> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=113183511810053&w=2
Well, we will see, but a compile issue is nothing that needs a prep box, and
as the debian kernel is generic and this is part of the ARCH=powerpc migraton,
i have no time for this this week, indeed, i will not have time for anything
this week, and may not even be online most of the time.
> > I mean, are your words plan to drop everything but x86 and amd64 in the near
> > future ?
>
> wtf?
> keep your ad hominem attacks for someone else.
Come on, you say nobody uses prep, let's just not support it, and i just
pointed out that such words are starting you on the path of dropping all
arches except the mainstream ones, so better be careful with them, no
ad-hominem, no attack, no whatever that was intented as you took it, except
maybe a bit of clumsiness in chosing the right words on my part.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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