Re: So I have a Plasma 5 desktop!
Am Samstag, 18. Juli 2015, 14:27:47 schrieb Marc Haber:
> Hi,
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> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:13:02PM +0200, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> > Anyway, some features appear to have been lost in the upgrade. Here's
> > what I'm missing so far:
> >
> > * Skype and others don't show up in the system tray any more.
> > Apparently, I need to install sni-qt which isn't packaged, yet. See
> > https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=124670
>
> That's a pretty big transition, especially for the background that
> sni-qt is dead upstream and won't come up in Debian any time soon.
Well, its how upstream decided about it.
> > * Plasma Search, the successor to KRunner, doesn't remember the history.
> > (Really? :-O)
> >
> > * The Veromix plasmoid doesn't work anymore and there doesn't seem to be
> > a suitable replacement to control PulseAudio from a panel.
>
> But, do you have sound? I seem to have lost sound completely. In
> System Settings, all I can see is my hardware devices in "Audio
> Hardware Setup". Both the "Device Preferences" and "Backend" tabs
> don't offer anything to be selected. Pulseaudio is installed, and both
> mpg321 and paplay on the command line work.
Yes. But without Pulseaudio. Cause it still creates issues for me (last
issue stuttering sound in PlaneShift all reported but yet unfixed I think).
> Other than that, I am having a déjà vu regarding important functions
> missing from the current release, although not so bad as with KDE 4.
>
> Most prominent absences are
>
> - Screensavers (with the additional fun of the canonical solution
> being "use xscreensaver" if you want something shiny instead of a
> blank screen) and
Blanks screen just fine here. Make sure powerdevil package is installed.
> - the QuickLaunch plasmoid, which allowed placement of launchers in
> multiple rows inside the same panel. I would like to have some
> feedback to replace QuickLaunch without wasting too much screen real
> estate since normal launchers take about twice the panel space theat
> QuickLaunch used to take. I hope there is some neat new way to do
> things in plasma 5.
No idea.
> Otherwise, I hate to say that I do not (yet?) see any substantial
> improvement over KDE 4 other than "it's qt5 now" (which is probably
> important).
It feels snappier for me. But sure, that is no hard data.
Some long standing annoying bugs got fixed.
> - It is still not possible to sensibly use a vertical panel, which is
> quite important on small displays such as my 1366x768 panel which is
> not high enough anyway and one doesn't want to waste Y coordinate
> pixels with panels. A vertical panel is either unuseable because the
> task manager fields are too small to have any valueable contents or,
> on a wider panel, the icons get scaled up according to panel width so
> that they fill up too much of the panel space. It is obviously still
> not possible to place small icons side-by-side to each other in a wide
> vertical panel.
I use a vertical panel. Granted the K menu icon is very large. But otherwise
looks OK. But needs to be wide enough for clock as it doesn´t scale
properly.
For placing icons side by side I think I used some launcher widget as you
mentioned. It may be that not all widgets are packages yet for Plasma 5.
Maybe there are still some missing compared to what upstream delivers.
> I appreciate the Debian KDE team's work and acknowledge that most of
> the issues mentioned here are upstream issues that Debian cannot
> solve. Sadly, this is another instance of an "upstream didn't care
> enough" that we have had so often in the past in the KDE world.
I think the transition is much more smooth than with KDE SC 3 => 4.
A lot more. I am using Plasma 5 productively since more than a week already.
But there will be at least one more transition: KDEPIM 4.14 => KDEPIM 5. And
probably another one: Akonadi => Akonadi Next.
Ciao,
--
Martin
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