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x.org from Ubuntu together with Debian Sarge/Sid and KDE 3.4 packages from alioth


I finally wanted to try out xorg 6.8.2 and tried with Ubuntu packages 
(version: 6.8.2-10). This worked quite nicely. I just added 

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe 

temporarily and installed xserver-xorg and some depdendencies. 

The automatic configuration migration did not work. I just did a 
"dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" which worked quite nicely it seems. The 
init script of xorg-common seems to work at least. I found a hint that it 
doesn't and thus saved the init script from xfree86-common, but I did not 
have to copy it over (see http://www.debianforum.de/wiki/XorgDebianUbuntu 
only in german).

Then I found that kwin from KDE 3.4 packages from alioth does not seem to 
have kcompmgr installed and thus transparency stuff did not work. I then 
installed kwin from Ubuntu which got me gamin instead of fam. Then 
transparency did work. But it is quite slow on the Savage chip in my IBM 
ThinkPad T23, so I disabled it again (even with Option "Accel" in the 
driver section). Without transparancy and shadows enabled in KDE 3.4 
graphic output seem to be a lot faster. I never saw KDE menus pop up that 
fast on my P3 1.13 GHz notebook.

While I cannot say anything on the long term effect of my xorg adventure 
and there might very well be problems once updated X packages appear in 
Debian, right now that stuff seems to work pretty smooth. Note: I tried 
to use few packages from Ubuntu as I am unsure whether a complete switch 
to Ubuntu would be reversible at all. ;)

Well thats not to rise that xorg discussion again. I believe that it would 
be pretty cool to have x.org for Debian but I also see the need to get 
Debian Sarge out finally. So please do not start that discussion again.

If you want xorg and are a bit adventurous you can have it now. That is at 
least what I experienced. I wouldn't recommend this for the novice debian 
user tough. Wierd things can happen with package dependencies that 
require manual intervention.

I think i will use x.org from Ubuntu until official Debian for x.org 
appear. When I find problems I probably switch back to xfree 4.3 before. 

Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de

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