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Re: Konsole keys problem

On Monday 01 October 2001 18:24, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Am Montag, 1. Oktober 2001 16:20 schrieb Achim Bohnet:
> > On Monday 01 October 2001 09:29, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > the home and end keys in konsole do not work anymore (I tried every
> > > keyboard setting there). Strange is that when I ssh to a host with X3.3.6
> > > they work, on a host with X4.1 they don't.
> > > Bug??? Compilation problem???
> >
> > Can you give an example what does not work anymore?
> >
> > What's the output of cat<return><home><end> for 3.3.6 and 4.1?
> 4.1 (local), the same on the remote X3.3.6 host:
> <home> output: ^[[1~
> <end> output: ^[[4~

Very strange!  All a terminal application 'sees' are the
printable chars and escape sequences that konsole generated.
And for home/end konsole you wrote that the same escape sequence
are the same. Confused!

> (local):
> linux:/usr/share/apps/konsole# egrep Home\|End default.Keytab
> key Home  -Shift   : "\E[1~"
> key End   -Shift   : "\E[4~"
> remote has nothing like such a file.

default.Keytab the default is compiled into konsole that there
is no default.Keytab is no problem.

> all such files on local:
> linux:/usr/share/apps/konsole# egrep Home\|End *eytab
> default.Keytab:key Home  -Shift   : "\E[1~"
> default.Keytab:key End   -Shift   : "\E[4~"
> linux.keytab:key Home   : "\E[1~"
> linux.keytab:key End    : "\E[4~"
> vt100.keytab:key Home   : "\E[H"
> vt100.keytab:key End    : "\E[F"
> vt420pc.keytab:key Home   : "\E[H"
> vt420pc.keytab:key End    : "\E[F"
> x11r5.keytab:key Home           : "\E[1~"
> x11r5.keytab:key End            : "\E[4~"
> On all aother settings like vt100 or vt420, I do not get any result.
> The terminal type is set to "xterm" by Konsole and the matching terminfo file 
> is present.
> > ds10(0) /usr/share/apps/konsole > cat
> > ^[[H^[[F
> >
> > I should correspond to what's written in the keytab file you use:
> It does but it has no effect on the functioning.

Nevertheless it proves that it it not bug in the konsole code,
just a misconfiguratin somewhere ;)
> > Maybe the terminfo/cap config has changed?  Does Home/End work with
> > e.g., xterm?  What's the output of cat<return><home><end> in a xterm?
> There is no problem with the keys in xterm or any other KDE2.2 program, only 
> Konsole seems to be affected :-/
> My X-Keyboard is defined like this:
> Section "InputDevice"
>         Identifier  "Keyboard0"
>         Driver      "keyboard"
>         Option      "XkbModel" "microsoft"
>         Option      "XkbLayout" "de"
> EndSection
> This is exactly the same as in KDE2.1 and X4.0.3 (I did not change both at 
> the same time, so it's also not the combination with the X version. 
> KDE2.1->2.2 changed last.)

I miss the most important info: output of cat<return><home><end> in the xterm.
Replacing <home>-, <end>- sequences that xterm emits in your favorite *keytab
should fix your Home/End Key problem you have with konsole.

If this does not help, please give an example so I can try here. I'm using
testing+XF 4.1+KDE2.2.1 and have access to a remotehost (no Xserver) with

> Actually it is funny because before the change to 2.2, it work locally but 
> not on remote hosts (with debian 2.2 and old xlibs). I wonder why there were 
> reasons to change the whole X keyboard codes thingie. It seems that X 
> developers love the change and incompatibility :-/
> And why, actually, does need X another keyboard driver than the 
> console/kernel??? Are there so many differnent ways to read keyboard input???
> This is really confusing (and probably very OT).
> HS

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