Re: Versioned Dependencies (Was: Re: libjgrapht0.6-java_0.6.0-7_amd64.changes is NEWW)
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 02:43:48PM +0530, Onkar Shinde wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Michael Koch <konqueror@gmx.de> wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 01:59:56PM +0530, Onkar Shinde wrote:
> >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Torsten Werner <twerner@debian.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> 2. You cannot binNMU an Architecture: all package but java packages
> >> >> are usually of Architecture: all.
> >> >
> >> > That may change at some point, there have been rumblings about
> >> > throwing away maintainer-built packages (but still requiring them) and
> >> > building all packages (including arch all ones) on the buildds.
> >>
> >> That will be great because then FTBFS will be discovered sooner than
> >> later for arch:all packages.
> >> By the way, why not simply upload only source packages and let them
> >> get built on buildd.
> >
> > This saves resources on the buildds and specially guards the slower architectures.
> > The main problem is that if you allow source-only uploads people will upload
> > packages they dont even tried to build locally. And these are often jyst buggy.
>
> Really. I assumed that uploaders always try building the packages in
> pbuilder (or equivalent) first.
> And just because the uploader build the package does not mean that it
> will build on buildd. Because many of them user svn-buildpackage (or
> equivalent) and there is high chance of skipping build dependencies or
> having different environment.
> I have come across many packages where build dependencies are not
> correctly specified (missing ant from build-deps) or environment
> variables set to value which do not work on buildd (wrong JAVA_HOME).
>
> I am not saying that uploading only source package will solve all the
> problems. But from my personal experience (in Ubuntu) it has worked
> better. Of course same rules may not apply to Debian.
Well, I got this impression by looking at Ubuntu build logs.
You are right that for arch:all package we still miss some more quality
control as these are not build on the buildds in Debian.
Cheers,
Michael
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