Re: Quitting debian-java
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 06:53:02PM +0100, Artur Radosz wrote:
> *2. License to Distribute Software. *Subject to the terms and conditions
> of this Agreement, including, but not limited to Section 3 (Java (TM)
> Technology Restrictions) of these Supplemental Terms, Sun grants you a
> non-exclusive, non-transferable, limited license to reproduce and
> distribute the Software in binary code form only, provided that (i) you
> distribute the Software complete and unmodified and only bundled as part
> of, and for the sole purpose of running, your Programs, (ii) the
> Programs add significant and primary functionality to the Software,
> (iii) you do not distribute additional software intended to replace any
> component(s) of the Software, (iv) you do not remove or alter any
> proprietary legends or notices contained in the Software, (v) you only
> distribute the Software subject to a license agreement that protects
> Sun's interests consistent with the terms contained in this Agreement,
> and (vi) you agree to defend and indemnify Sun and its licensors from
> and against any damages, costs, liabilities, settlement amounts and/or
> expenses (including attorneys' fees) incurred in connection with any
> claim, lawsuit or action by any third party that arises or results from
> the use or distribution of any and all Programs and/or Software.
>
> This is from jre license. I`m not lawyer but maybe this could be used to
> include it?
*** (iii) you do not distribute additional software intended to replace any component(s) of the Software ***
Well, this makes it seem like we would not be able to distribute any other jdk. (Or any other compiler like jikes, or any other software that might provide the funtionality of any feature of the jdk)
*** (v) you only distribute the Software subject to a license agreement that protects Sun's interests consistent with the terms contained in this Agreement ***
Hmm, what are suns interests?
*** (vi) you agree to defend and indemnify Sun and its licensors from
> and against any damages, costs, liabilities, settlement amounts and/or
> expenses (including attorneys' fees) incurred in connection with any
> claim, lawsuit or action by any third party that arises or results from
> the use or distribution of any and all Programs and/or Software. ***
My favorite. So if somebody uses the software that sun wrote and it kills them because of suns negligence then Debian has to pay to defend Sun.
While IINAL I work for a company that has deployed Java applications running under debian for several large Free Software Projects (pocketlinux, etc...) as well as fortune 500 companies. Suns liscensing is basically ignorant and the liability transfer clause probably isnt even legal. I for one would be increadibly happy if we could package and distribute Sun's JDK. Unfortunately I wouldn't want Debian to take the risks associated with distributing the package. (Because of botht the liability risk and the question of violating the functionality clause...)
Take all of this with a grain of salt as IINAL. Then again its quite easy to point your /etc/apt/sources.list to blackdown and fetch the jdks...
Cheers,
Eric Molitor
eric@brainfood.com
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