Re: Quitting debian-java

[Artur Radosz <slu@ags.pl>]

Evan Prodromou wrote:

> > > > > > "AR" == Artur Radosz <slu@ags.pl> writes:
>
>     Me> Just for my own curiosity, are there any Java 2 JVMs that -are-
>     Me> redistributable? Blackdown? IBM?  Or is the jdk-XXX-installer
>     Me> method like the only way to make this work?
>     >> 
>     AR> *2. License to Distribute Software. *Subject to the terms and
>     AR> conditions of this Agreement, including, but not limited to
>     AR> Section 3 (Java (TM) Technology Restrictions) of these
>     AR> Supplemental Terms, Sun grants you a non-exclusive,
>     AR> non-transferable, limited license to reproduce and distribute
>     AR> the Software in binary code form only, provided that (i) you
>     AR> distribute the Software complete and unmodified and only
>     AR> bundled as part of, and for the sole purpose of running, your
>     AR> Programs, (ii)
>
> OK, that seems like a problem right there. It'd be part of the
> distributed Debian+non-free, so it wouldn't be for the sole purpose of
> running Java programs.

I could write program that print HelloWorld :)

>     AR> (iii) you do not distribute additional software
>     AR> intended to replace any component(s) of the Software,
>
> This sounds like it would mean we couldn't have Kaffe, Japhar or
> Classpath on the same disk. Or even another JVM, like IBM's. 

No if it will don`t replace any files in this package.

>     AR> (vi) you agree to defend and indemnify Sun and its licensors
>     AR> from and against any damages, costs, liabilities, settlement
>     AR> amounts and/or expenses (including attorneys' fees) incurred
>     AR> in connection with any claim, lawsuit or action by any third
>     AR> party that arises or results from the use or distribution of
>     AR> any and all Programs and/or Software.
>
> Pfft. No way.

There could be some text plus yes - no.

>     AR> This is from jre license. I`m not lawyer but maybe this could
>     AR> be used to include it?
>
> I don't think so. BUT what about doing the -installer thingy?

Of course this is much better soultion (however we will lost a 
possibility to speed up (mirroring) installation process).

Maybe i will find some time to do this?

> ~ESP
slu