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Re: Lexical order of Hiragana/Katakana?

On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 07:44:20AM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote:
> Hi,
> From: KURASAWA Nozomu <nabetaro@mx1.avis.ne.jp>
> Subject: Re: Lexical order of Hiragana/Katakana?
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:32:08 +0900
> > Yes, In Code-table order small kana come before normal ("big") kana.
> > But In lexical order I (usually) do NOT make  a distinction between
> > small and normal. 
> > 
> > e.g.
> > ?$B$-$D$/ < ?$B$-$C$H
> I have a Japanese dictionary "Shincho Gendai Kokugo Jiten" (first edition).
>  http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/4107302148/249-1250973-6802717
>  (This page shows the second edition).
> Here shows a part of rules which the dictionary has.
> 1. Order words by IGNORING distinction between big/small (like
>    ?$B$D/?$B$C), normal/dakuten/handakuten (?$B$O/?$B$P/?$B$Q), hiragana/katakana
>    (?$B$"/?$B%").
> 2. Additional rules of
>     a. normal first, dakuten next, handakuten final
>        (?$B$O -> ?$B$P -> ?$B$Q)
>     b. big first and small next (?$B$D -> ?$B$C)
>    and so on are considered ONLY when order is same in the rule 1.
> ?$B$"$D$$ -> ?$B$"$C$+ -> ?$B$"$D$+$& -> ?$B$"$D$,$_ -> ?$B$"$D$+$o -> ?$B$"$C$+$s
> I have used several Japanese dictionaries since I was a small child
> and I think this is a common set of rules for most of Japanese dictionaries.
> I have an impression that other small rules (hiragana/katakana, handling
> of "?$B!<", and so on) may differ between dictionaries but I may be wrong.

I agree with you mostly.

For most modern disctinaries, I think they are like these.

Of course, pre-1940 dictionaries sometimes are different.

Something like Japanese disctinary made by in 16th centrury
Jesuit had different word order, if I remember.

But all these ones are pedandic exceptions :-)


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