Re: [OT] Non e' un po' bruttina la fase di init?
Ciao Mattia,
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 07:20:17PM +0200, Mattia wrote:
Gia' ieri sera avevo dato un'occhiata a questa mail e relative risposte, non
ho voluto intervenire per non scatenare dei flame, ma, dato che il discorso,
pur essendo OT (ma neanche tanto), e' continuato e, a quanto pare non e'
stato molto cosruttivo, ho deciso, come utente Debian di intervenire
.... :-)
Mi sembra alquanto superficiale l'osservazione fatta riguardo i messaggi
video del processo di init, se vi mancano tanto gli OK e i FAILED in verde e
rosso basta cambiare la distribuzione e orientarsi su di una come la
Mandrake e la RedHat, .... la Mandrake poi, in fase di installazione ha
anche dei bei semaforini gialli, verdi e rossi, (anche l'occhio vuole la sua
parte.... :-)), ecco allora se non si vuol tornare a winsozz si sceglie una
distro delle precedenti o comunque derivate basate su rpm e il problema non
sussiste piu'.... :-)
Credo che per valutare un Os ci sia ben altro che le scritte di init. Tutto
questo in fondo nasconde la solita mentalita' esteriore di chi e' abituato a
valutare le cose solo da come appaiono .... e facile ingannare questo tipo
di persone, basta fornirgli tante iconcine, tanti colori e luccichii, gli
puoi vendere di tutto .... ma non la conoscenza .... quella non la vogliono
.... troppa fatica .... :-).
Ribadisco, dato che per Linux esistono centinaia di distro diverse, c'e'
solo l'imbarazzo della scelta, ergo non si e' obbligati usare la Debian solo
perche' fa "figo" o per sentirsi parte di un "elite" .... :-)
> > > Difficile sicuramente, ma non impossibile.
> > > Potrebbe essere il primo importante cambiamento della prossima
> > > unstable. Certo e' che finche' non diventa un' esigenza di chi sta
> > > "ai piani alti" non si realizzera' mai.
Ma secondo te questa e' un'esigenza reale?, e' un problema di sicurezza un
bug importante? Ognuno e' libero di usare Debian come meglio crede anche per
andare al cesso, pero' sono dispiaciuto per tutto il lavoro che hanno svolto
e svolgono centinaia di programmatori in tutto il mondo per ottenere un Os
professionale, potente, flessibile, e gratuito che poi venga denigrato da
osservazioni superficiali e alquanto banali .... :-)
A questo punto mi sembra doverso citare una mail di Bruce Perens ....
forse anche da questa si puo' imparare qualcosa .... :-)
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Debian Rides Space Shuttle!!! and other Debian news
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* To: debian-announce@lists.debian.org
* Subject: Debian Rides Space Shuttle!!! and other Debian news
* From: bruce@master.debian.org
* Date: 20 Feb 1997 01:25:33 -0000
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Here is a press release on Debian's flying on the space shuttle. If you
are friends with a member of the press, please pass this on to them with
a request for them to write about it. We'll be promoting this to the major
computer magazines, etc.
Thanks
Bruce Perens
<bruce@debian.org>
NEW COMPUTER OPERATING SYSTEM RIDES SPACE SHUTTLE
Contact: Bruce Perens <bruce@debian.org> 510-215-3502
A radically different new computer operating system is controlling an
experiment on a Space Shuttle mission in late March. The experiment
tests "hydroponics", a way of growing plants without soil that could
eventually provide oxygen and food to astronauts. The computer
controlling the experiment runs "Debian GNU/Linux", an operating system
built by a group of 200 volunteer computer programmers who
tele-collaborated over the Internet and never met each other. The system
has many earthly uses - it can replace conventional operating systems
such as Microsoft's "Windows 95" on personal computers. In a departure
from conventional operating system practice, the volunteer group is
giving the system and all of its source code away for free. Details are
available on the group's web site: http:/www.debian.org/ .
"Linux is the modern successor to the Unix operating system developed by
Bell Labs during the 1970's", said Bruce Perens, leader of the Debian
project. "A Finnish college student started Linux in the early 1990's,
and was joined by others on the Internet who helped develop the system.
We united Linux with free software contributed by other volunteers to
make a complete system of 800 software packages. The result communicates
on the Internet and includes, for free, many normally-expensive programs
such as web servers, computer languages like Java, C, and C++, and many
other programs".
The space shuttle experiment will fly on mission STS-83 in late March
and early April. Sebastian Kuzminsky is an engineer working on the
computer that controls the experiment, which is operated by Biosciences
Corporation. Kuzminsky said "The experiment studies the growth of plants
in microgravity. It uses a miniature '486 PC-compatible computer, the
Ampro CoreModule 4DXi. Debian GNU/Linux is loaded on this system in
place of DOS or Windows. The fragility and power drain of disk drives
ruled them out for this experiment, and a solid-state disk replacement
from the SanDisk company is used in their place. The entire system uses
only 10 watts", said Kuzminsky, as much electricity as a night-light.
"The computer controls an experiment in hydroponics, or the growth of
plants without soil", said Kuzminsky. "It controls water and light for
the growing plants, and sends telemetry and video of the plants to the
ground".
Educators have also gravitated to the "Debian GNU/Linux" system. David
Teague, a computer prof at Western Carolina University, says "most of
the laboratories in our CS department run Debian. We use it to teach
programming, operating systems, system administration, and web page
design". Schools from the primary grades to college use the system to
provide inexpensive Internet access to their students.
"Most of us are computer professionals, but we produced Debian GNU/Linux
as a hobby project", said Perens, who works as a graphics programmer for
the company that made "Toy Story". "It started out three years ago as a
loose collaboration of 60 people who had communicated on the Internet
but had never met each other. We were dissatisfied with the operating
systems available to us, which had not kept pace with the development of
our computer hardware. We felt that the 'net had become so big that we
could bring a group of volunteer programmers together on it to produce
things that had only been made by huge companies up to now. We hoped
that lots of people would put the system we created to serious use, but
we couldn't advertise it except by making a web page and talking about
it on the Internet. It didn't take long for us to pick up thousands of
users, and for the volunteer staff to swell to 200 programmers from all
over the world. People were taking Microsoft off of their systems to
install Debian". Today the system has spawned its own non-profit
organization, "Software in the Public Interest", to support further
development. The members come from every continent in the world.
"We're still interested in picking up more volunteers", said Perens,
"and we always welcome new users". People interested in the system can
learn about "Debian GNU/Linux" on the group's web site "www.debian.org".
The web site provides free downloads of the entire system, and
instructions on installing it.
Per questa sera penso che possa bastare .... :-)
Au Revoire
Hugh Hartmann
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