Re: ..idea; ddos spam hosts off Internet?, was: ...please
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 09:51, Arnt Karlsen <arnt@c2i.net> wrote:
> ..another idea; DDOS'ing spam hosts _off_ the net, say by using other
> spam hosts as DOS relays? Spam headers contain the originating ip,
> and 2 such _can_ be set up to DOS each other. _Etc_.
The problem is that such attacks are a crime, and you are probably easier for
the authorities to catch then the spammer...
> ..these spam hosts are commonly virus infected Wintendo's without the
> owner knowing, as such unsuspecting owners feel their box appears to
> work normally.
>
> ..these virus infected Wintendos should be taken off-line, anyway,
> and made secure. And isp's should have a policy on such abuse,
> and enforce it.
http://www.netfilter.org/patch-o-matic/pom-base.html
See the section on "osf" in the above URL for a better solution. Simply block
Windows machines from accessing your port 25.
> ..outside Internet, similar action is warranted in many jurisdictions,
> by laws governing emergencies, for example, breaking into your neighbors
> house to take his computer is a criminal offence, but may be warranted
> if his house is ablaze and you know the loss of his data will destroy
> his business.
I doubt that any court would rule that a DDOS attack is lawful, particularly
as the attack would mostly harm an innocent ISP that has a Windows luser as a
customer (all ISPs have lame customers).
> ..Bill Gates' proposal of email-for-a-fee-to-Microsoft to solve this, is
> IMHO pure racism, as is Nigeria's 419 legislation, as it effectively
> denies all other Africans and many Asians the access to the free
> email that you and I enjoy.
I don't want to send email to Microsoft anyway... ;)
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