I made some Debian vpn notes for ipsec / freeswan here.... http://www.thing.dyndns.org/debian/vpn.htm Ive not played with freeswan since 2.4.14, but Im about to use it over wireless 802.11b....arrrggg! Its a bitch......... If anybody has a config for a debian laptop to a debian firewall and win2k to Debian firewall please let me know!. regards Thing