8.8.8 eh, I'd really rather you pulled an 8.9.3-xx deb, dif, dsc, changes and built that under Hamm. The current 8.9.3 is -15, and it is in incoming now, will be installed into potato in ~15 minutes. 8.9.3 has relaying off by default, but has a few different ways to define who you wish to relay from/to. -- Rick Nelson C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\GO C:\PC\CRAWL