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Re: Headache with IPv6 (and IPv4) as ISP (access provider)



Hello Bernhard Schmidt,

Am 2012-09-09 12:07:26, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> So you already have NAT44 (IPv4 NAT).

NAT?  Ehm no.  I have an public IPv4 /24 assigned to my AS.

> > If I give my "private" customers fixed or DHCP assigned IPv6  addresses,
> > they can not more access the IPv4 Internet.
> 
> Why? 

I do not know why, because if I go to my customer and connect my  Debian
Laptop to tzhe FTTH Modem, all is working fine  and  I  can  access  ANY
servers with IPv4 and IPv6.

But if a customer connect with Windows Vista/2007  which  get  the  IPv6
address over my PPPoE server and then can not more  connect  to  servers
which use IPv4.

Only IPv6 aware services are working.

If I use a CISCO roter between the FTTH Modem and the  Windows  machine,
Windows get a NATed IIP Address from the CISCO Router and  then  Windows
can access IPv4 and IPv6 services...

The problem is, most Low-Cost Roters do not support IPv6  which  let  me
run into trouble with private customers.  It seems, there are  currently
not very much routers which  support  IPv6  (AVM  has  for  example  two
working boxes)

> People often wrongly assume that deploying IPv6 means switching off
> IPv4. This is not the case. Your IPv4 will continue to work as-is (with
> NAT).

But why NAT?  I have not enough public IPv4 adresses  (even  my  Managed
GE Switches do not support it) and the only way would be private IPs for
the NAT.

> Switching off IPv4 can be done (and has been done) in enterprise
> deployments, where you have control of the applications and can ensure
> they are working correctly (i.e. using proxies or NAT64).

Hmmm, I do not realy know, what I have configured (used an Ubuntu HOWTO)
but my <intranet1> is entirely IPv6  (no  IPv4  available  anymore)  and
ANYTHING is working except my embedded systems, which I now access using
an IPv6 running admin server.

E.g. my current workstation:

[michelle.konzack@work1:~] ifconfig eth0
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  Hardware Adresse 00:0e:0c:22:8f:0a  
          inet6-Adresse: 2a01:4f8:d12:1300::1:13/64 Gültigkeitsbereich:Global
          inet6-Adresse: fe80::20e:cff:fe22:8f0a/64 Gültigkeitsbereich:Verbindung
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metrik:1
          RX packets:478344816 errors:0 dropped:13399 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:528880089 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlänge:100 
          RX bytes:3404297287 (3.1 GiB)  TX bytes:2744681181 (2.5 GiB)

It just works.  I do not know, where the fe80:... is coming from,  which
I have never configured, but it works properly

> I think there
> are at least 5+ years to go before you can do so in ISP environments.

Very grmpf!

> > So, what I have to do (or the customers?), to let the outdated IPv4 keep
> > working?
> You keep IPv4 up and running.

I have only 180 IPs available but in some month arround 4500 customers.

> Best Regards,
> Bernhard

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
    Michelle Konzack

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